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25. 7.56 D' F2 U' L2 U B2 F2 U' R2 D' L2 B D' F' U R D R2 B D2 B2
Missed the timer, and missed a sub-7.

x2 y' // Inspection
D r U2 R' U' x' u // Cross (6/6)
U' R U R' y' r' F r // F2L-1 (7/13)
U y R' U R // F2L-2 (4/17)
R U' R' // F2L-3 (3/20)
U' L' U' L // F2L-4 (4/24)
U2 F R U R' U' F' // OLL (7/31)
U' R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R' U2 // PLL (17/48)

This was slow turning so I'm surprised it finished with over 6 TPS.
 
JTWong71 said:
5.97, 50 STM
8.38 TPS, I saw pretty much the whole F2L in Inspection, so I figured out a way to better setup the last two pairs saving some moves. I got pretty lucky with the 2GLL.
L' U L U2 L F' L' //2x2x2
y U R2 U F R' y U R' F R //XXCross
U' L U L' //Setup CE Pair
R U R' U L U' L' //F2L-3 + CE Pair Setup
F' U2 L' U L F //F2L-4 + Edge Control
U R' U2 R U R' U R U R' U' R U' R' U2 R U //2GLL
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Your PB Ao100 is 12.45 but in the last 26 hours you've got a 4.16, 5.02 and 5.97? I find that hard to believe...
 
JTWong71 said:
5.97, 50 STM
8.38 TPS, I saw pretty much the whole F2L in Inspection, so I figured out a way to better setup the last two pairs saving some moves. I got pretty lucky with the 2GLL.
L' U L U2 L F' L' //2x2x2
y U R2 U F R' y U R' F R //XXCross
U' L U L' //Setup CE Pair
R U R' U L U' L' //F2L-3 + CE Pair Setup
F' U2 L' U L F //F2L-4 + Edge Control
U R' U2 R U R' U R U R' U' R U' R' U2 R U //2GLL
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Please start filming your solves, also, how did you see almost the whole F2L in inspection??
 
Hssandwich said:
Please start filming your solves, also, how did you see almost the whole F2L in inspection??
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I don't have anything to film my solves or to upload it on, as my parents don't want to me put things on Youtube.

Also, I don't put on the 15 Second Inspection when I am doing these solves. For solves in the forum competitions, I will put on the 15 Second Inspection. I pretty much just saw where the last 2 pairs would generally be and then I started solving.
 
TDM said:
Your PB Ao100 is 12.45 but in the last 26 hours you've got a 4.16, 5.02 and 5.97? I find that hard to believe...
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Usually in a solve I will just solve the Cross, F2L pairs, OLL, then PLL, just normal CFOP.
In the 3 solves, I built an XCross. I'd say my Cross normally averages around 1-1.5 Seconds.
My F2L is around 4-7 Seconds, and my Last Layer is around 5-7 Seconds.
In the first solves, I pretty much skipped a big part of the Last Layer, skipping PLL, which I vary around .7-3 seconds (N+R-Perms), while also having a 6 move OLL, which I vary around .5-4 seconds depending on what OLL I get.

On the second solve, I was able to get an easy XXCross in 7 moves. I then got decent CE Pairs for the rest of F2L.
After that, I got another 6 move OLL, and a G-Perm that for some reason I can do decently fast.

On the last solve, I built a block and then made an XXCross again. The CE Pair after that was easy and the next one I could influence the pair to make it an easy 3 move insert, or I could influence the Last Layer edges using VHLS. Finally, I got a 2GLL which can be executed quickly.

In conclusion, I know I got those solves and those times. I don't always inspect under 15 seconds, but people can still get lucky at times. Also, in Felik's One-Handed Average of 5 Video he says, "First 5 solves are the 9.74 average of 5. 3 PLL/EPLL skips in it, but getting lucky is not a crime."

 
JTWong71 said:
Usually in a solve I will just solve the Cross, F2L pairs, OLL, then PLL, just normal CFOP.
In the 3 solves, I built an XCross. I'd say my Cross normally averages around 1-1.5 Seconds.
My F2L is around 4-7 Seconds, and my Last Layer is around 5-7 Seconds.
In the first solves, I pretty much skipped a big part of the Last Layer, skipping PLL, which I vary around .7-3 seconds (N+R-Perms), while also having a 6 move OLL, which I vary around .5-4 seconds depending on what OLL I get.

On the second solve, I was able to get an easy XXCross in 7 moves. I then got decent CE Pairs for the rest of F2L.
After that, I got another 6 move OLL, and a G-Perm that for some reason I can do decently fast.

On the last solve, I built a block and then made an XXCross again. The CE Pair after that was easy and the next one I could influence the pair to make it an easy 3 move insert, or I could influence the Last Layer edges using VHLS. Finally, I got a 2GLL which can be executed quickly.

In conclusion, I know I got those solves and those times. I don't always inspect under 15 seconds, but people can still get lucky at times. Also, in Felik's One-Handed Average of 5 Video he says, "First 5 solves are the 9.74 average of 5. 3 PLL/EPLL skips in it, but getting lucky is not a crime."

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I'm sorry but that doesn't come close to explaining those times. I'm aware people can get very lucky, but I doubt with the 2nd and 3rd solutions a 13 second solver could get even a sub-7. And yes, it's possible to get scrambles lucky enough to get 5s, but not three in one day (while conveniently not being able to film yourself).
 
TDM said:
I'm sorry but that doesn't come close to explaining those times. I'm aware people can get very lucky, but I doubt with the 2nd and 3rd solutions a 13 second solver could get even a sub-7. And yes, it's possible to get scrambles lucky enough to get 5s, but not three in one day (while conveniently not being able to film yourself).
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I see you probably won't ever believe me on these solves, but do you think I wouldn't already have a channel if I am able to get 12 second averages? One of the solves was also a couple days before I posted it on the forums.

Is there any possible way for you to believe that I got those solves, other than by filming on something I don't have, or something that is crazy/unrealistic? Do you think there is any possibility that those solves were real and that it is possible I got those times?
 
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I think the main part of the reason why I got those times is from the extra inspection.

I'll give an example of what I am thinking during the inspection of a random scramble:
B U2 B' R2 U2 R2 B' D2 B U2 F R U L R F U' L R2 F U

First, I see that 2 Cross edges are already aligned to their Non-Cross Color Center.
I then see the last two Cross pieces adjacent to each other in the U-Layer, and I can preserve them by doing a U'.
After that, the 3 Cross edges are easy to place, by doing F' R2 U' L2.
So, the Cross is U' F' R2 U' L2.

Next, I see a CE Pair on BL, which will be preserved when I solve the cross, while also being moved to the U-Layer.
So now, I know that my first CE Pair solution will be U' R U R' U2 R U' R' U R U' R'.

Thirdly, I see that when I do U' at the beginning, it will move the CE Pair into the First CE Pair's place, FR.
Then, I see that when I solve my First CE Pair, it will already line up BR's CE Pair.

For the last part of inspection, I see that FL's CE Pair is almost lined up for a 3 move insert, and I will then look for a way to make it an easy insert when I solve.

So, normal inspection I will usually only find a 2x2x2, and the general position of the last 2 Cross Pieces, or the Cross Solution, and where a CE Pair will generally be. When I have extended inspection, I was able to see the Cross, and almost the first three CE Pairs. Taking a look at how many moves I figured out during that inspection...

U' F' R2 U' L2 //Cross
U' R U R' U2 R U' R' U R U' R' //F2L-1
y' U2 L U' L' //F2L-2
y' U' R' U' R //F2L-3
U' R U R' U R U' R' //F2L-4
U F U R U' R2' F' R U R U' R' //OLL
L U2 L' U2 L F' L' U' L U L F L2 //PLL

Using Extended Inspection, I was able to see 40% of the entire solve, and 76% of the entire F2L.
If I was using normal inspection, I would only be able to see around 10% of the solve.

Edit: I did two solves using this scramble beforehand, 1 with normal inspection, 1 with extended inspection.

Normal Inspection: 12.36
Extended Inspection: 9.30
 
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U' R2 D R2 U2 R2 F2 R2 U B2 U' B' L B' U' B U R' U' F'

2 1x2x2 squares, each with 3 different colours...
R' F2 R2 B L solves a pleasing amount of stuff but I don't know what to do after that :p

E: even more if you use a B2 premove, duh

B2 premove
R' F2 R2 B U' L R' F' R // F2L-1
U2 F' L F L2 U L U // edges
17 (18 inc. premove) to AB5C, insertion finder gives 28 optimal. Not bad for a like 5 minute solution :P
 
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ryanj92 said:
U' R2 D R2 U2 R2 F2 R2 U B2 U' B' L B' U' B U R' U' F'

2 1x2x2 squares, each with 3 different colours...
R' F2 R2 B L solves a pleasing amount of stuff but I don't know what to do after that :p

E: even more if you use a B2 premove, duh

B2 premove
R' F2 R2 B U' L R' F' R // F2L-1
U2 F' L F L2 U L U // edges
17 (18 inc. premove) to AB5C, insertion finder gives 28 optimal. Not bad for a like 5 minute solution :p
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37 move possible speedsolve solution:
R' F2 R2 B L // Blocks (5/5)
U R' F R // Pseudo XXX-cross // (4/9)
U L' U2 L U y' M' U R U' r' // OLS (10/19)
y2 R' U' R' D' R U' R' D R U R' D' R U R' D // PLL+finish (16/37)

Or IF gives 29:
R' F2 [@1] R2 B L U R' F R U L' U2 L U B F' L F L' B
Insert at @1: B' L2 B R2 B' L2 B R2
After the 1st insertion: R' F2 B' L2 B R2 B' L2 B2 L U R' F R U L' U2 L U B [@2] F' L F L' B
Insert at @2: B' U' B D' B' U B D
Fewest moves: 29. 7 moves cancelled
The final solution: R' F2 B' L2 B R2 B' L2 B2 L U R' F R U L' U2 L B D' B' U B D F' L F L' B
 
TheFearlessPro said:
U R D2 F2 R' B2 D2 F2 L2 F2 R' U' B F' L2 U2 B2 L
2 free pairs or i mighta scrambled wrong xD
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This scramble is actually crazy:

z2 R' F' B' U' R D // Cross (6/6)
L U2 L2 U2 L // 1st and 2nd Pair (5/11)
D' U' R' U2 R2 U R2 U R D // 3rd and 4th Pair (10/21)
y R' U' R U' R' U2 R U' R U R' U R U2 R' // ZBLL (15/36)

36 STM CFOP solution
 
U2 R F R2 L B' L2 B2 R' F B' L D2 L D' R2 U2 D2 B' R2 F L2 D B2 F2

z2 y | Inspection
D2 L R' F | Cross
(R U R' U')x2 F U F' | F2L Pair 1
y2 U' R U R' y' U L' U L | F2L Pair 2
y (R U R' U') (R U R' U') R U R' | F2L Pair 3
y' R U' R' U R U2 R' U R U' R' | F2L Pair 4
r U R' U' r' F R F' | OLL/ PLL Skip
U' | AUF

Got my PB of 11.45.
 
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