[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[TorbinRoux]

ok I will wade into the roux thread. *shudders
Just learn a subset I call VLS-CP

This would be the idealist approach however recognition might not be too good. Do you know how many algs exactly?


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[shadowslice e]

This would be the idealist approach however recognition might not be too good. Do you know how many algs exactly?


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Too many. If you want to use BLS (like VLS but preserves CP) and solve CP beforehand (such as in Briggs) and you will have 216 algs.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Too many. If you want to use BLS (like VLS but preserves CP) and solve CP beforehand (such as in Briggs) and you will have 216 algs.

or you can just learn OLLCP

 

[shadowslice e]

or you can just learn OLLCP

I am learning some of them though I doubt I'll learn them very quickly (halfway through O atm).

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

I am learning some of them though I doubt I'll learn them very quickly (halfway through O atm).

nice! race?

 

[shadowslice e]

nice! race?

Nah; you'll definitely beat me cause you have a headstart and i don't have too much time to learn algs and neither am I good at learning them cause I'm lazy

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Nah; you'll definitely beat me cause you have a headstart and i don't have too much time to learn algs and neither am I good at learning them cause I'm lazy

it was a joke lol (all those zbll scrubs in the accomplishment thread)
I dont have that much time either, so i'm only going for 2 subsets every weekend

 

[SRV]

Since I started using roux, I build my second block connecting 2 random pieces(out of the 5 that make the second block) that can be joined more easily, then insert the 3rd piece(edge) and then the last pair.

Though, I see our fast guys Alex Lau, Guroux and PDF immediately inserting DR edge and then the 2 pairs left. Although it is not movecount wise, does it help with lookahead and speed?

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Since I started using roux, I build my second block connecting 2 random pieces(out of the 5 that make the second block) that can be joined more easily, then insert the 3rd piece(edge) and then the last pair.

Though, I see our fast guys Alex Lau, Guroux and PDF immediately inserting DR edge and then the 2 pairs left. Although it is not movecount wise, does it help with lookahead and speed?

yes, its usually faster to just do DR edge then 2 pairs, but there are a lot of cases where you can insert DR and influence the other pieces or solve a pair.

 

[SRV]

yes, its usually faster to just do DR edge then 2 pairs, but there are a lot of cases where you can insert DR and influence the other pieces or solve a pair.

Cool, I'll be doing that from now on! Thanks for the instant reply!

 

[shadowslice e]

What's a good movecount for a linear slow solve (~1tps)?

 

[TDM]

What's a good movecount for a linear slow solve (~1tps)?

I seem to get between 45 and 55 when I do it; I've not done many solves but I'm guessing around 50 moves. I found it hard to not turn at less than about 2 TPS though (average time seems to be 22-23) so perhaps you could do a little better.

However I'm not sure you get a good idea of your efficiency from this; it might be better to look at your movecount without CMLL, since that's dependent on which algs you use. The other steps are where your efficiency actually matters.

 

[GuRoux]

I seem to get between 45 and 55 when I do it; I've not done many solves but I'm guessing around 50 moves. I found it hard to not turn at less than about 2 TPS though (average time seems to be 22-23) so perhaps you could do a little better.

However I'm not sure you get a good idea of your efficiency from this; it might be better to look at your movecount without CMLL, since that's dependent on which algs you use. The other steps are where your efficiency actually matters.

what is your average cmll movecount, i think mine is high 9.

 

[shadowslice e]

I seem to get between 45 and 55 when I do it; I've not done many solves but I'm guessing around 50 moves. I found it hard to not turn at less than about 2 TPS though (average time seems to be 22-23) so perhaps you could do a little better.

However I'm not sure you get a good idea of your efficiency from this; it might be better to look at your movecount without CMLL, since that's dependent on which algs you use. The other steps are where your efficiency actually matters.

Yeah I guess. I aim for sub-45 but usually get like 47 or so (wish I could do that in a speedsolve ) The reason I ask is cause it's getting cold here so both my cube and hands are underperforming... :/

 

[TDM]

what is your average cmll movecount, i think mine is high 9.

Don't know. I think it's around that for me as well.

Yeah I guess. I aim for sub-45 but usually get like 47 or so (wish I could do that in a speedsolve ) The reason I ask is cause it's getting cold here so both my cube and hands are underperforming... :/

47 is definitely good. You'd average mid 9 if you could do that at 5 TPS!

 

[shadowslice e]

47 is definitely good. You'd average mid 9 if you could do that at 5 TPS!

Yeah well, my tps sucks...

Probably why my oh is so close to my 2h (15 vs 25-27ish)

Even though I practise 2h so much more than oh...

Oh well... :/

 

[TorbinRoux]

Do you think it would be better to familiarize yourself with 1 block very well, or have more options to start the solve, but with less confidence due to the larger spectrum of pieces needed to familiarize yourself with? Obviously multiple blocks could become very familiar but that would take much more practice


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[PenguinsDontFly]

Do you think it would be better to familiarize yourself with 1 block very well, or have more options to start the solve, but with less confidence due to the larger spectrum of pieces needed to familiarize yourself with? Obviously multiple blocks could become very familiar but that would take much more practice


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4 or 8 is the best. any less: bad cases. any more: hard to get used to.

 

[obelisk477]

A6 CMLL: r2' D' r U' r' D r2 F' r' U r F

F' done with right ring. Last F is the only bad part. Maybe left thumb if you can swing it

 

[GuRoux]

A6 CMLL: r2' D' r U' r' D r2 F' r' U r F

F' done with right ring. Last F is the only bad part. Maybe left thumb if you can swing it

wow, looks good, let me see if i can get fast at this, do the last F as ring push