[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[rybaby]

when do you guys use non-matching centers? i only do it for most 6 flips and a certain 4 flip pattern.

Never

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Never

Same.

 

[pewpewrawr]

when do you guys use non-matching centers? i only do it for most 6 flips and a certain 4 flip pattern.

pretty much anytime i can easily turn something into the arrow, you can save a move or two on 2 flips a lot of the time. i'm still kinda bad at recognition with some cases though.

 

[GuRoux]

pretty much anytime i can easily turn something into the arrow, you can save a move or two on 2 flips a lot of the time. i'm still kinda bad at recognition with some cases though.

a lot of times the recognition is impossible without looking at the bottom. that's why i only do non-matching for specific easy cases. I think i save 6 moves for the six flip cases and 6 moves for the 4 flip pattern.

 

[pewpewrawr]

a lot of times the recognition is impossible without looking at the bottom. that's why i only do non-matching for specific easy cases. I think i save 6 moves for the six flip cases and 6 moves for the 4 flip pattern.

all you really need to know is where your UL/UR pieces are, if you know that then you don't have to look at the bottom.

 

[AirbusCube]

Any good alg that permutes the centers? I use M S2 M' S2 and I think its very hard to fingertrick

 

[Kirjava]

when do you guys use non-matching centers? i only do it for most 6 flips and a certain 4 flip pattern.

four flip on top, opposite white/yellow

never any other time

 

[GuRoux]

four flip on top, opposite white/yellow

never any other time

yeah, that's the four flip pattern i i do it for too.

 

[GuRoux]

Any good alg that permutes the centers? I use M S2 M' S2 and I think its very hard to fingertrick

replace the S2 with E2.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

I'm hoping to get more into 4x4, but I don't know full OLL and PLL. What alternate methods to Yau and Redux do you guys suggest. I'm thinking along the lines of K4 maybe Hoya?

 

[waffle=ijm]

I'm hoping to get more into 4x4, but I don't know full OLL and PLL. What alternate methods to Yau and Redux do you guys suggest. I'm thinking along the lines of K4 maybe Hoya?

Meyer?

 

[Berd]

How many LSE cases are there (excluding cases which are only different by a U)

 

[GuRoux]

How many LSE cases are there (excluding cases which are only different by a U)

i believe it is 11520.

 

[Berd]

i believe it is 11520.

Oops I meant eo cases Hahah

 

[GuRoux]

Oops I meant eo cases Hahah

0 flip: 1
2 flip: 5
4 flip: 4
6 flip: 1

11 cases i think.

 

[Berd]

Thankyou! What's the best case for the 2 flip on the bottom?

 

[GuRoux]

Thankyou! What's the best case for the 2 flip on the bottom?

do you mean the best way to solve it? that has to do with preference between U and U'. but usually you do what is best for 4b.

 

[Berd]

4b!? Also I do M with right hand so U' are best.

 

[GuRoux]

4b!? Also I do M with right hand so U' are best.

depending on how you solve EO, your UL and UR pieces will be in different places. Ideally, you pick the EO solution that place UL and UR pieces in the best place.

but if you don't care about that now: M' U' M' U M U' M' of M' U M' U' M U' M'

 

[TDM]

4b!?

4b
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