[Help Thread] What method should I use?
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I suggest you try all the methods and try to figure out which one you enjoy the most. Sure, some methods might *potentially* have lower limits than others, but I'm fairly confident that all well-established methods (Petrus, Roux, Fridrich), and probably some other not-so-well-known ones (ZZ, ZB, Waterman) can all get down to world class speeds. In the end, the best choice will be the one that you enjoy the most.
Just don't forget to try them all before you decide!
Just don't forget to try them all before you decide!
Johan444
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Why should you base your decisions upon what other people think of you? If people would ignore tips like the ones you are spreading and spending less time on building their ego maybe they would be abit more happier.
BigGreen
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how come im not the coolest person ever yet >:|
cookieyo145
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When you get around 56 sec change to f2l. then when you're 40-45 change to 2look oll +pll.
sub- 30 now
sub- 30 now
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I don't see why he should wait until he is 56 seconds. In my opinion; the sooner you learn it, the faster you will improve.
The most popular speedsolving method is Fridrich. This is also the method that some of the fastest cubers use including the world record holder.
This is how i suggest learing it:
1. Learn intuitive F2L
2. Practise F2l until you are comfortable with it
3. Learn 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL
4. Learn full PLL
5. Learn full OLL
The most popular speedsolving method is Fridrich. This is also the method that some of the fastest cubers use including the world record holder.
This is how i suggest learing it:
1. Learn intuitive F2L
2. Practise F2l until you are comfortable with it
3. Learn 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL
4. Learn full PLL
5. Learn full OLL
Meisen
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My advice would be to use the Fridrich beginners method; Cross, the 4 corners in first layer, the 4 edges in the second layer, 2 look OLL, then 2 look PLL.
Whilst you are learning the 2-look's I would also practice the keyhole method.
When you feel that you master the layer by layer approach (with some additional keyhole where it's appropriate) I would move on to F2L.
My personal approach to F2L was algorithmic, and although lots of people don't reccomend that approach, and just say do it intuitivly, algorithmic approach worked for me
The next logical step is to learn full PLL (you can start learning PLL's whilst still learning F2L ofcourse, or even before starting to learn F2L, it's all up to you).
When you know full PLL I would go for full OLL.
After OLL is memorized, MY choice was to learn COLL (not for sune and anti-sune yet, maybe never).
And that is as far as I have come. When I get recognition and execution of COLL down to "close to my regular OLL's", then I'm thinking of expanding to CLLEF, but this is not yet decided...
Mind you, the ONLY reason i recommend Fridrich is because i don't know Petrus or Roux or any other method, so this is what worked for me
Whilst you are learning the 2-look's I would also practice the keyhole method.
When you feel that you master the layer by layer approach (with some additional keyhole where it's appropriate) I would move on to F2L.
My personal approach to F2L was algorithmic, and although lots of people don't reccomend that approach, and just say do it intuitivly, algorithmic approach worked for me
The next logical step is to learn full PLL (you can start learning PLL's whilst still learning F2L ofcourse, or even before starting to learn F2L, it's all up to you).
When you know full PLL I would go for full OLL.
After OLL is memorized, MY choice was to learn COLL (not for sune and anti-sune yet, maybe never).
And that is as far as I have come. When I get recognition and execution of COLL down to "close to my regular OLL's", then I'm thinking of expanding to CLLEF, but this is not yet decided...
Mind you, the ONLY reason i recommend Fridrich is because i don't know Petrus or Roux or any other method, so this is what worked for me
NeedReality
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The usual time for switching to a more advanced method is around a minute. However, you can switch whenever you want, it's a personal choice. When you decide that you are ready to move on, the most popular 3x3 methods are CFOP (Fridrich), Petrus, Roux, and ZZ. I advise you to look into each of those and decide which one you like best. The 4 methods that I mentioned (and others that I didn't) are all capable of being fast, so the decision is up to which one you like the best.
I personally started off with Fridrich, got sub-20, didn't like it, and then switched to Roux. I think the reason most people don't start off learning methods like Petrus/Roux/ZZ is because the block building steps can be hard to grasp at first (and that the majority of people use Fridrich so that's what is recommended). Trust me, with just a little practice, block building isn't all that difficult, so try not to let that influence your choice.
Good luck with making your method choice and with cubing in the future. Remember, have fun!
I personally started off with Fridrich, got sub-20, didn't like it, and then switched to Roux. I think the reason most people don't start off learning methods like Petrus/Roux/ZZ is because the block building steps can be hard to grasp at first (and that the majority of people use Fridrich so that's what is recommended). Trust me, with just a little practice, block building isn't all that difficult, so try not to let that influence your choice.
Good luck with making your method choice and with cubing in the future. Remember, have fun!
cyoubx
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For some reason, this makes me reminisce to the old days when Ash was picking his first Pokemon.
It doesn't actually matter which method you choose. All the methods listed above are good. I suggest you try them all out. Remember that if you stick with a method for awhile then decide that it's actually not suitable for you, you can always switch methods.
Just play around and see what works for you.
Personally, I learned CFOP when I was around 45 seconds on LBL, but there's no reason why you shouldn't start now.
Good luck, and have fun!!
It doesn't actually matter which method you choose. All the methods listed above are good. I suggest you try them all out. Remember that if you stick with a method for awhile then decide that it's actually not suitable for you, you can always switch methods.
Just play around and see what works for you.
Personally, I learned CFOP when I was around 45 seconds on LBL, but there's no reason why you shouldn't start now.
Good luck, and have fun!!
Meisen
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That means that you should keep doing what you are doing now until you want to try something new/better/more advanced. Personally i have never understood why people feel you have to get to a spesific time before switching to more advanced ways of solving the cube. Just move on to bigger and better things when you feel you have a good grasp of what you are doing now, and want to "develop further"
Meisen
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No need to wait; buy a Guhong from lightake, they have free shipping
http://www.lightake.com/detail.do/sku._3x3x3_DaYan_GuHong_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit_Black_-30597
*EDIT*
Or a white one if you prefer that, but in that case you will have to wait, because it's currently sold out:
http://www.lightake.com/detail.do/sku.3x3x3_DaYan_GuHong_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit_White-30363
http://www.lightake.com/detail.do/sku._3x3x3_DaYan_GuHong_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit_Black_-30597
*EDIT*
Or a white one if you prefer that, but in that case you will have to wait, because it's currently sold out:
http://www.lightake.com/detail.do/sku.3x3x3_DaYan_GuHong_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit_White-30363
timeless
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No need to wait; buy a Guhong from lightake, they have free shipping
http://www.lightake.com/detail.do/sku._3x3x3_DaYan_GuHong_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit_Black_-30597
*EDIT*
Or a white one if you prefer that, but in that case you will have to wait, because it's currently sold out:
http://www.lightake.com/detail.do/sku.3x3x3_DaYan_GuHong_Magic_Cube_DIY_Kit_White-30363
how long does it usually take for lightake to restock?
also is it better to use pogobat method (1.20) or badmephisto's method begineer (1.40)
i learned both already but im faster at pogobat's
freshcuber
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If you plan on learning full Fridrich then use badmephisto's
Meisen
Regular
Yeah, no doubt; Badmephisto is the way to go!!
The restocking question may already be answered in this thread: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...-Deal-Thread-Discounts-as-of-February-13-2011 If not, then ask away
The restocking question may already be answered in this thread: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...-Deal-Thread-Discounts-as-of-February-13-2011 If not, then ask away
Cool Frog
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K4 style F2L (blockbuild first layer if you want)
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