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Great to see another brand making smart cubes. However, I wish they could differentiate their products more, and not just make another ICarry (S or 2) like product, like Moyu did. Same 56mm, ~81g, and battery. Why not 54mm or 55mm? Or a less weight? Whether it's 500 hour battery or 900 does not matter much in a practical sense. I still haven't run out of battery on my ICarry S, and they look like they can last a whole year. I don't mind a shorter battery life if that would give me a smaller and lighter cube.

This one does look like it will be better in performance than the blocky Icarrys, if it's anything like the QiYi M Pro, but it can't be used on any robot. So, it does not look like it can challenge the ICarrys or sell a lot in the small market. A higher-end Tornado like, or Weilong like, smartcube would make more sense IMO.
 
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More information from China about the QiYi smartcube. 7 adjustable settings for axis distance (no tools needed), and 2 "settings" for spring (apparently set by swapping in a set of supplied alternative springs). Price will be reasonable. The pieces are not the same as the QiYi M Pro, but more like a cut-down version of it. It is said to feel like a speedcube, i.e. better than other smartcubes at this mid level. This is looking better now. Note that what are available and described by early testers now are pre-release and not the final versions.
 
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Sean Patrick Villanueva testing the smartcubre.

It is rumoured to be released "in a few more days" and priced at ~¥90. I think it could be hmmm... US$29. 😀
 
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Wow! A new smartcube is coming from Moyu and it's based on the V10. The yellow centre cap has 4 unsightly holes (just like the Gan 12 UI Freeplay). 😬 Why is Moyu looking more like Gan these days?*** 🤔

No other information can be found at this time. I really hope it is indeed coming soon, and that it will be 55mm, and not 56mm as in all the Gan smartcubes. I also hope Moyu will provide a plain yellow centre cap, without holes. (They did provide them for the last Weilong AI smartcube).

*** Moyu --> Gan?

- Moyu pricing has changed a lot and more like Gan in their higher models.

- The last Moyu AI cube, the cheap one released ½ year ago, has a design so similar to Gan ICarry cubes. Their robot and software are also similar in design to Gan's.

- The 4 holes in this new smartcube look just like what Gan has in its latest smartcubes. Moyu could at least put the holes on the White centre cap, so that it will be at the bottom when solving and not visible most of the time for most cubers.

Info about this smartcube can be found on Chinese video, if you have access.
 
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For what's worth, here's the second video about the V10 on YouTube.


And there's now more info about the new smartcube from Moyu. It has the same tension and axis adjustment system as the V10, as well as the same pieces, ie same colours and dimensions. However, it only has 8 core magnets. not 20. It is not Maglev, just springs. That means less weight (important for a smartcube), and possibly better performance (like the SE V9). There are edge (repelling?) magnets. It has a gyroscope and the app shows the cube's rotations smoothly, unlike previously with the discontinued Weilong AI smartcube (jerky rotations). It is definitely a top smartcube. I wish it would use normal batteries with year-long battery life, but it will only have a rechargeable one instead. Note that the above is based on early testers video on what seems like pre-production models. So, changes are possible.
 
Dan the Beginner said:
For what's worth, here's the second video about the V10 on YouTube.


And there's now more info about the new smartcube from Moyu. It has the same tension and axis adjustment system as the V10, as well as the same pieces, ie same colours and dimensions. However, it only has 8 core magnets. not 20. It is not Maglev, just springs. That means less weight (important for a smartcube), and possibly better performance (like the SE V9). There are edge (repelling?) magnets. It has a gyroscope and the app shows the cube's rotations smoothly, unlike previously with the discontinued Weilong AI smartcube (jerky rotations). It is definitely a top smartcube. I wish it would use normal batteries with year-long battery life, but it will only have a rechargeable one instead. Note that the above is based on early testers video on what seems like pre-production models. So, changes are possible.
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Wasn’t the MoYu smart-cube app terrible to use?
 
Yes, it's a mystery to me why cube companies don't bother hiring at least one person who has enough English skills, and some cubing knowledge, to go over their instruction manuals, marketing material and software.
 
Dan the Beginner said:
Yes, it's a mystery to me why cube companies don't bother hiring at least one person who has enough English skills, and some cubing knowledge, to go over their instruction manuals, marketing material and software.
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From there, I think it gets annoying for people who don’t understand Chinese, like many people. If cubing brands put time into their SmartCube apps and had different languages, that sure would be nice.
 
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Why is the top-tier WRM V10 under $40? If I remember correctly, the V9 was more expensive if you got the top tier.
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IMO, why would you need a much more expensive puzzle when you have the Super Weilong at the “highest-end” cube (like the GAN 13+14) and the WRM V9 Ballcores at the 40-50 dollar range (like the XMD Pioneer and GAN 12). They really don’t have anything to compete with the cost of the XMD Tornado Flagship, with the closest good option being the RS3M V5.
 
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Why is the top-tier WRM V10 under $40? If I remember correctly, the V9 was more expensive if you got the top tier.
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It's called competition, I think. The WRM 2021 had a great new feature (magnet adjustment) but was priced clearly below the WRM 2020 due to the QiYi Tornado V2. Apparently the cheap Tornado V3 Flagship is still taking sales from everyone even after all this time. Another possible explanation is that there V9 and some of the other models in 2023 are seen as over-priced and Moyu needs to do something again, after the V5, for the higher models.
 
It's also up to us. A manufacturer can only continue to release new models if people would buy them. For me, the more models and the faster they are released, the more I hesitate to buy them, since newer and potentially better models may be released again in a couple of months. In fact, since Moyu started doing this and released about 20 new cubes, I myself have only bought one of them, the SE V9. I buy about 8 to 10 cubes a year.

As for this specific WRM smartcube, it is overdue. It's an upgrade to the first and now obsolete Moyu Weilong AI cube, and it is their third smartcube so far. What makes me hesitate now is that they increased the size to 55.5mm. I think they should continue with the 55mm size or even go 54.5mm, to offer an alternative to Gan's smartcubes (all of them 56mm).
 
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