[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[rybaby]

New PB single
8.52 L2 B2 R2 B' U2 R2 B U2 B L2 R2 U' B' L R D B2 D L D'

y2 D R2 D R' D' // FB
U' Rw' U' Rw U R U2 Rw' U' Rw // RB square
M2 R U' Rw' // RF Pair
U' R' F R B' R' F' R B // CMLL
U' M' U' M' U' M U' M' // EO
U' M2 U M2 // the rest

Wow

 

[GuRoux]

New PB single
8.52 L2 B2 R2 B' U2 R2 B U2 B L2 R2 U' B' L R D B2 D L D'

y2 D R2 D R' D' // FB
U' Rw' U' Rw U R U2 Rw' U' Rw // RB square
M2 R U' Rw' // RF Pair
U' R' F R B' R' F' R B // CMLL
U' M' U' M' U' M U' M' // EO
U' M2 U M2 // the rest

Wow

nice solve, weird cmll, isn't easier just to do U2 F' r U R' U' r' F R? or R U R U' L' U R U' x'?

 

[rybaby]

nice solve, weird cmll, isn't easier just to do F' r U R' U' r' F R?

I learned this from Bob Burton's site (cubewhiz.com). Actually a really fast alg imo. I use your version on 2x2 though, and the reflection of yours for the reflection case.

Edit: timed my alg a few times. Fastest was 0.47

 

[TDM]

nice solve, weird cmll, isn't easier just to do U2 F' r U R' U' r' F R? or R U R U' L' U R U' x'?

I use the same alg as him, except I execute it like l' U R D' R' U' l B. I hate both your algs

 

[maps600]

nice solve, weird cmll, isn't easier just to do U2 F' r U R' U' r' F R? or R U R U' L' U R U' x'?

Yeah, it seems like it would transition into LSE more smoothly because the other one requires a regrip before M slicing.

 

[Renslay]

New PB single
8.52 L2 B2 R2 B' U2 R2 B U2 B L2 R2 U' B' L R D B2 D L D'

y2 D R2 D R' D' // FB
U' Rw' U' Rw U R U2 Rw' U' Rw // RB square
M2 R U' Rw' // RF Pair
U' R' F R B' R' F' R B // CMLL
U' M' U' M' U' M U' M' // EO
U' M2 U M2 // the rest

Wow

Very nice solve! Congrats!

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Just beat ao 5, ao 12, and tied my ao 100..... still cant beat that 10.45...

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

nooooo 10.83 scramble: D2 F2 U' B2 U' L2 U B2 L2 D' L' F2 D B R D' B2 F R' D'
inspection: x2, y
fb:B' U' R M U' M2 U2 L' U L
SB: M' U' R' U r' U' r U' R2 U' R U2 R' U' R
CMLL: U2 L' U2 L U2 L F' L' F
EO: M2 U' M' U M'
LR: U M' U2 M U M2 U
EP: M U2 M U2 M2

 

[GuRoux]

nooooo 10.83 scramble: D2 F2 U' B2 U' L2 U B2 L2 D' L' F2 D B R D' B2 F R' D'
inspection: x2, y
fb:B' U' R M U' M2 U2 L' U L
SB: M' U' R' U r' U' r U' R2 U' R U2 R' U' R
CMLL: U2 L' U2 L U2 L F' L' F
EO: M2 U' M' U M'
LR: U M' U2 M U M2 U
EP: M U2 M U2 M2

your scramble: D2 F2 U' B2 U' L2 U B2 L2 D' L' F2 D B R D' B2 F R' D'
time: 7.43
solution:
x2 y
U B' U' R' U' r' F' (7)
r' U r U R2 U' r U B' R' B (11)
L F2 L' U2 R' F R F' (8)
U' M' U' M' U2 M2 U' M' U2 M U2 (11)
stm: 37
tps: 4.98

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Nice. What was the time?

 

[GuRoux]

Nice. What was the time?

7.43 seconds. as you can see in my first block, i set up my second pair as i solve the square. that is often the case when you have really easy squares.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Nice solve. Whats your pb? My tps on cmll isnt even near 4...

 

[GuRoux]

Nice solve. Whats your pb? My tps on cmll isnt even near 4...

pb is 6.01. how slow is your cmll? i remember my cmll was always relatively slow too.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

2-3 seconds. The rest of my solve is usually a 4 second LSE and a 6-7 second f2b

 

[JediJupiter]

Posted in wrong thread

 

[obelisk477]

Question from a CFOPer; why wouldn't you want to use COLL for Roux since you could more easily predict EO after CxLL? Any time lost by having longer COLL algs would seem to easily be made up by having an idea of what edges would be flipped after the alg.

 

[TDM]

Question from a CFOPer; why wouldn't you want to use COLL for Roux since you could more easily predict EO after CxLL? Any time lost by having longer COLL algs would seem to easily be made up by having an idea of what edges would be flipped after the alg.

I think Roux users learn what effect their CMLLs have on the LSE.

 

[JediJupiter]

Question from a CFOPer; why wouldn't you want to use COLL for Roux since you could more easily predict EO after CxLL? Any time lost by having longer COLL algs would seem to easily be made up by having an idea of what edges would be flipped after the alg.

That extra time is probably made okay by having shorter algs.

 

[GuRoux]

Question from a CFOPer; why wouldn't you want to use COLL for Roux since you could more easily predict EO after CxLL? Any time lost by having longer COLL algs would seem to easily be made up by having an idea of what edges would be flipped after the alg.

i actually think it's better to just learn COLL if you're just going to learn one alg for each case. But for almost all of my CMLL, i have one eo preserving alg (not necessarily COLL) and one eo changing alg. A lot of them is just switching R for r or something like that.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

My average move count is about 40-50, and my tps in most solves is 3. Should I gradually increase turn speed while keeping fluidity or should I further lower my move count?