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15.55 Roux PB Reconstruction

Scramble: F' L2 R2 D2 B' D2 B L2 D2 F2 U L F' L' R' F D B' D' U2

x' z // inspection

L U' L' U' F' // Lsquare

U' R U2 B // Lpair

M' U R U' R M U M' R U' R' // Rsquare

U R' U' R // Rpair

r U R' U' r' F R F' U2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' // CMLL

U2 M' U M' // EO

M' U2 M' U M2 U' // UL/UR

STM: 57 Moves
TPS: 3.67

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Do you have any tips are any different approaches to this solve?
 
cashis said:
thnx :)
I rly like roux and am starting to consider switching to it as a main method, though it's really tough to give up cfop when im this fast...even if I don't end up switching, I at least would like to be sub 20 with roux, one day. my biggest problem is lse eo. I totally understand eo and all, but it's hard to wrap my brain around how to do it. the way I do it right now is kind of "do whatever until I get arrow" which is not good bc it usually takes like a lot of moves. Ive looked into an algorithmic approach, but there aren't many resources for that, and the alex routorial on lse has like 3 cases which totally helps lol.
also, one day I want to be able to do the thing where you don't have to adjust the m slice before eo and can do it without that but that's advanced stuf lol
tl;dr eo help pls
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actually, alex has a vid where he shows how to do every single eo case.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6o51BoryY
 
I'm new and learning Roux from DeeDub's videos (having already learned the Beginner's Method from BadMephisto). Two questions:

1. Has anyone used or heard of the iPhone app "Cube Roux Tutorial"? I realize I can just watch videos but often an app is more "instant access" to what you want and it's supposed to have quizzes which might be helpful. If nobody knows I'll probably just buy it and worst case I'm out $3.

2. Are corner orientation algorithms transplantable between Roux/CFOP/etc...? Right now as a total beginner I'm just doing Sune over and over but I would like to learn the 7 different cases. I've seen multiple different algorithms for these though and I want to make sure I don't mess myself up by learning a set that's not applicable because it has implicit assumptions about the state of the cube which won't hold true for me. Specifically, I was looking at the ones here:
http://lubixcube.com/CMLL.html. I like these because they're relatively short and generally build on the Sexy Move as a common building block so I'm figuring they will be easier to learn due to that repetition. Or, if you think this is a bad set and I should use another set of algorithms I'm open to that - just point me in the right direction :)

Thanks!
 
the corner orientation cases are the same as CFOP/ZZ/Petrus corner algs, however, we dont need to worry about the orientation of edges. So basically, you can use 2x2 cases for CO, and CP,

As for the algorithms, I dont know hardly any, and I wouldnt learn CMLL till you are at least sub-40.
 
dboeren said:
I'm new and learning Roux from DeeDub's videos (having already learned the Beginner's Method from BadMephisto). Two questions:

1. Has anyone used or heard of the iPhone app "Cube Roux Tutorial"? I realize I can just watch videos but often an app is more "instant access" to what you want and it's supposed to have quizzes which might be helpful. If nobody knows I'll probably just buy it and worst case I'm out $3.

2. Are corner orientation algorithms transplantable between Roux/CFOP/etc...? Right now as a total beginner I'm just doing Sune over and over but I would like to learn the 7 different cases. I've seen multiple different algorithms for these though and I want to make sure I don't mess myself up by learning a set that's not applicable because it has implicit assumptions about the state of the cube which won't hold true for me. Specifically, I was looking at the ones here:
http://lubixcube.com/CMLL.html. I like these because they're relatively short and generally build on the Sexy Move as a common building block so I'm figuring they will be easier to learn due to that repetition. Or, if you think this is a bad set and I should use another set of algorithms I'm open to that - just point me in the right direction :)

Thanks!
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A lot of these are easy to learn algs but they suck for speedsolving, some are acceptable though but there are much better ones.
 
theROUXbiksCube said:
A lot of these are easy to learn algs but they suck for speedsolving, some are acceptable though but there are much better ones.
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Fair enough, is there a link to a different set of algorithms that you can recommend instead? It makes sense that there would be a tradeoff between speed and ease of learning, but in the long run speed is of course more important.

I do understand that it might be premature to focus too much on this until I get my times down some, but I feel like this step is currently taking a significant amount of time so this and the initial block building are what I want to concentrate on first. Basically my plan is to just drill on left block, right block, top corners for a while - then mix it up again. Once I'm happy with how that's going I'll revisit the last few steps.

Thanks!
 
dboeren said:
Fair enough, is there a link to a different set of algorithms that you can recommend instead? It makes sense that there would be a tradeoff between speed and ease of learning, but in the long run speed is of course more important.

I do understand that it might be premature to focus too much on this until I get my times down some, but I feel like this step is currently taking a significant amount of time so this and the initial block building are what I want to concentrate on first. Basically my plan is to just drill on left block, right block, top corners for a while - then mix it up again. Once I'm happy with how that's going I'll revisit the last few steps.

Thanks!
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http://algdb.net/

http://wafflelikescubes.webs.com/cmllalgorithms.htm
 
dboeren said:
Fair enough, is there a link to a different set of algorithms that you can recommend instead? It makes sense that there would be a tradeoff between speed and ease of learning, but in the long run speed is of course more important.

I do understand that it might be premature to focus too much on this until I get my times down some, but I feel like this step is currently taking a significant amount of time so this and the initial block building are what I want to concentrate on first. Basically my plan is to just drill on left block, right block, top corners for a while - then mix it up again. Once I'm happy with how that's going I'll revisit the last few steps.

Thanks!
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Or here
 
TDM said:
People don't count PBs from other people's scrambles.

But yes, PBs are very hard to break. I don't think I'm ever going to beat my current 3x3 single...
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Based on probability, there are still way luckier scrambles than what you have already seen. As long as you dont quit, dont get worse, and just solve, it is almost inevitable that you will get a luckier scramble.
 
PenguinsDontFly said:
Based on probability, there are still way luckier scrambles than what you have already seen. As long as you dont quit, dont get worse, and just solve, it is almost inevitable that you will get a luckier scramble.
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I did something with probability about a week ago and got a ~1/14000 chance of beating my PB each solve (assuming a normal distribution, which isn't quite right, but whatever). Given that I don't do timed 3x3 solves except for three weekly comps (sundaycontest, Reddit and Roux), and only two of them are done with my fastest method, it's very unlikely I'll be beating it for several years :p
 
TDM said:
I did something with probability about a week ago and got a ~1/14000 chance of beating my PB each solve (assuming a normal distribution, which isn't quite right, but whatever). Given that I don't do timed 3x3 solves except for three weekly comps (sundaycontest, Reddit and Roux), and only two of them are done with my fastest method, it's very unlikely I'll be beating it for several years :p
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If you're talking about your 6.21 lucky single (or the 7.xx non-lucky, it doesn't really matter much) you are forgetting a factor in your calculations: you still can get better. Then the probability of beating your PB would be higher ;-)

The fact that you don't time yourself that much any more is due to diminished interest in speedcubing? you don't care about times any more? other?
 
mafergut said:
If you're talking about your 6.21 lucky single (or the 7.xx non-lucky, it doesn't really matter much) you are forgetting a factor in your calculations: you still can get better. Then the probability of beating your PB would be higher ;-)

The fact that you don't time yourself that much any more is due to diminished interest in speedcubing? you don't care about times any more? other?
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But I don't think I'll get better if I don't practise...

It's mostly 3x3 that I'm bored of. I've not done much else since I started cubing, and it's only now that I'm starting to practise other events.
 
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