[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[PenguinsDontFly]

Wait you went directly from 17 to sub 15?

I did too. Once I hit full sub 20, I was sub 17, and once I hit sub 17, I was sub 15

 

[rybaby]

More like 16-17s to 14-15s sorry for being unclear.

Nice job! Interesting how you can sometimes have jumps of improvement like that. What do you think helped you break the barrier?

I did too. Once I hit full sub 20, I was sub 17, and once I hit sub 17, I was sub 15

That makes no sense. Not to be a doubter or anything, but there is no way that you were sub 15 instantly once you hit sub 20. Regardless of how fast you improve, that is nonsense.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

Nice job! Interesting how you can sometimes have jumps of improvement like that. What do you think helped you break the barrier?



That makes no sense. Not to be a doubter or anything, but there is no way that you were sub 15 instantly once you hit sub 20. Regardless of how fast you improve, that is nonsense.

Tbh, I just followed the tips you guys gave from an example solve I posted. I tried my best to plan all of the FB or at least track the LP. Then maximize look ahead, recog EO during CMLL and try to minimalize mistakes during LSE.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Nice job! Interesting how you can sometimes have jumps of improvement like that. What do you think helped you break the barrier?



That makes no sense. Not to be a doubter or anything, but there is no way that you were sub 15 instantly once you hit sub 20. Regardless of how fast you improve, that is nonsense.

Nvm. I meant I was stuck at 17 after getting sub 20, then from 17 after 2 weeks got sub 15. Sub 20 to sub 15 is ridiculous.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

Nvm. I meant I was stuck at 17 after getting sub 20, then from 17 after 2 weeks got sub 15. Sub 20 to sub 15 is ridiculous.

So I suppose the next step is global sub-15. What were some things you did? Other than full CMLL of course.

 

[GuRoux]

So I suppose the next step is global sub-15. What were some things you did? Other than full CMLL of course.

well, you should finish cmll. other than that, i just did lots of solves to better my lookahead and tried to be more efficient in first two blocks.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Some averages:
f2b ao50: 7.49
cmll ao42 (all cases): 1.73. Let's add .5 for variation/lockups/recog/AUF so 2.23
lse ao 50: 4.01
average total: 13.73. Seems reasonable, and i usually have no pauses other than cmll.
Ao12 full solve: 13.74 perfect example lol.
1 13.71 - -
2 12.77 - -
3 14.66 - -
4 14.17 - -
5 12.68 13.55 -
6 17.08 13.87 -
7 13.81 14.21 -
8 13.60 13.86 -
9 13.93 13.78 -
10 14.30 14.01 -
11 12.50 13.78 -
12 13.80 13.78 13.74

 

[GuRoux]

Some averages:
f2b ao50: 7.49
cmll ao42 (all cases): 1.73. Let's add .5 for variation/lockups/recog/AUF so 2.23
lse ao 50: 4.01
average total: 13.73. Seems reasonable, and i usually have no pauses other than cmll.
Ao12 full solve: 13.74 perfect example lol.
1 13.71 - -
2 12.77 - -
3 14.66 - -
4 14.17 - -
5 12.68 13.55 -
6 17.08 13.87 -
7 13.81 14.21 -
8 13.60 13.86 -
9 13.93 13.78 -
10 14.30 14.01 -
11 12.50 13.78 -
12 13.80 13.78 13.74

nice average of 12. work on lse and f2b, your cmll is about how fast my cmll was when i averaged 12.5.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

nice average of 12. work on lse and f2b, your cmll is about how fast my cmll was when i averaged 12.5.

My f2b is inconsistent. I had about 10 sub 6s in tha ao 50, and 3-4 8+s, and the rest were 7s. Lse I had 9 sub 3s, 6 5+s, and the rest were mid-high 3s and some 4s. If i can drop lse and cmll 1s each, I'll be at 11s. For 6s f2b, what should fb and sb splits be? 2-4 or 2.5-3.5.

 

[GuRoux]

My f2b is inconsistent. I had about 10 sub 6s in tha ao 50, and 3-4 8+s, and the rest were 7s. Lse I had 9 sub 3s, 6 5+s, and the rest were mid-high 3s and some 4s. If i can drop lse and cmll 1s each, I'll be at 11s. For 6s f2b, what should fb and sb splits be? 2-4 or 2.5-3.5.

how did you do lse scrambles? the 25 random moves usually doesn't scramble lse to well.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

how did you do lse scrambles? the 25 random moves usually doesn't scramble lse to well.

I think 25 moves is enough. Cs timer roux generator is pretty thourough. Only got 2 substep skips in ao 50 which is 150 steps.

 

[GuRoux]

I think 25 moves is enough. Cs timer roux generator is pretty thourough. Only got 2 substep skips in ao 50 which is 150 steps.

really, it tends to give more skips and lots of short EOs to me. it almost never gives a 6 flip.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

really, it tends to give more skips and lots of short EOs to me. it almost never gives a 6 flip.

I got 2 or 3.

 

[rybaby]

really, it tends to give more skips and lots of short EOs to me. it almost never gives a 6 flip.

I agree. I got a 2.52 LSE ao12 the other day. So many easy scrambles. I feel like a more thorough way would be scramble L10P then solve CMLL. Idk if that would be more realistic for LSE.

 

[GuRoux]

I got 2 or 3.

hmm, after doing a couple, maybe it's okay. probably just got a couple of lucky streaks that i thought were unlikely.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

Hm, interesting. My average for both LSE and partial CMLL is 3.

 

[GuRoux]

Hm, interesting. My average for both LSE and partial CMLL is 3.

how long has it been since you first started learning one look cmll. you should think about finishing them really soon. they are the easiest way to improve.

 

[JediJupiter]

I don't have too many cmll to do now, a few more T cases, pi, then that weird one which has two opposite pieces oriented correctly. I'm getting there, it's good.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

I don't have too many cmll to do now, a few more T cases, pi, then that weird one which has two opposite pieces oriented correctly. I'm getting there, it's good.

Yeah recognition of the last one is pretty hard to get used to.

 

[JediJupiter]

In the holidays I think I can learn one a day (probably more, but I'll be spending a lot of time not cubing) so I should be done by next year yay!