[Help Thread] Puzzle Recommendations

[Jorian Meeuse]

RS2M EVO is better in terms of performance.

Thanks! I think I'll be getting that one then! Especially considering all other positive reviews i found when researching this cube. Somehow I never heard about this cube lol.

 

[axe97]

RS2M EVO is better in terms of performance.

what about RS2M vs Weipo WR S?

 

[cuber314159]

I have thought it was really interesting that they stopped including the LM when it was their go to for YEARS! It’s the first time I’ve watched one of these and thought - “they really are more focused on selling cubes than anything so they have to start recommending something new”

I don’t get how it goes from being the number one pyraminx to not even getting a mention as even a good budget cube.

I have heard there have been way more issues with production quality of yuxin little magic pyraminxes so new ones probably won't be as good, it also needs a lot of set-up to actually be any good.

 

[Dan the Beginner]

Here is what thecubicle recommends

Thanks. The Tornado V3 may be the best of the 3x3 cubes released in 2022, but IMO there are other 2021 cubes that are just as good or better, depending on your needs. I like cubes that are quieter and smoother besides being a good performer. The WRM Maglev is clearly quieter and lower-pitched (less annoying) than my Tornado V3 Flagship, which is fully broken in. (See Note below.) The WRM 2021 also sounds nicer than the Tornado V3. As the successor to the super quiet Tornado V2, this is a disappointment to me. The Moyus are likely to have less quality issues than the Tornado V3, e.g. the instances of reports of screws coming loose. What the Tornado has a lighter weight. To me, both those two Moyu and also the Moyu AI smartcube are all about the same when used in solving as the Tornado V3. So other features/properties of the cube are more important reasons when it's time for me to choose one to use.

I will pick the WRM Maglev or an older Tornado V2, if I am going to a quiet place, so I do not annoy others. Most times, I would pick the Moyu AI smartcube (which I have swapped pieces with the WRM2021 to give the smartcube magnet adjustment), due to the extra smart features. YMMV for sure.

Note. I am not sure I can trust reviews when the reviewer passed judgment soon after opening the box and made the initial adjustments. I found that it takes around 200 solves, and even longer for this Tornado V3, to break it in. It is usually necessary to refine settings and also, to dissamble, clean and re-lube, after breaking in.

 

[BigCubeSolver]

What's the best 5x5 I can get on the market right now? The MGC doesn't really suit me and I'm looking for a better 5x5, any suggestions? The price does not matter.

 

[BigCubeSolver]

I'm looking to get all new big cubes (4x4-7x7) for myself and am debating between YJ MGC or Moyu WRM for all of them. Assuming price is not a factor at all, should i just go for all Moyu? I haven't been able to find any definitive consensus online anywhere. I tend to dislike "cheap" feeling cubes, in case that matters

Just get the WRM series, they are smaller and way better, here's my experience with them

AoChuang WRM- I tried my friend's aochuang, two solve sin and I almost got my first sub 1 single (1:00.16), It feels way better than the MGC and I would choose it over the MGC.

AoShi WRM- I just got this cube a few days ago, my time dropped from 2:30 to 2:07, which is quite good considering it happened by just switching cubes. I also used Anyu Zhang's Aoshi and got a 2:15 Average, which was very good since my average with the MGC was around 2:30.

AoFu WRM- Definitly get this one. First of all, it' 64.5mm, the mgc is 68mm. It' a big difference and its small size make it very enjoyable to solve. The shades of the Aofu are more vibrant than the Mgc's, and it has an anti-popping mechanism which actually works since I rarely get any pops when solving it, which isn't true for the MGC.

In conclusion, the WRM is currently the best choice as of 2022, it feels more 'premium' than the MGC and It is considerably smaller than the MGC.

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

is it worth getting the moyu weilong pyraminx if have the yuxin little magic m pyraminx and the bell v1? Or should I get the gan enhanced or the bell v2?

 

[axe97]

Just get the WRM series, they are smaller and way better, here's my experience with them

AoChuang WRM- I tried my friend's aochuang, two solve sin and I almost got my first sub 1 single (1:00.16), It feels way better than the MGC and I would choose it over the MGC.

AoShi WRM- I just got this cube a few days ago, my time dropped from 2:30 to 2:07, which is quite good considering it happened by just switching cubes. I also used Anyu Zhang's Aoshi and got a 2:15 Average, which was very good since my average with the MGC was around 2:30.

AoFu WRM- Definitly get this one. First of all, it' 64.5mm, the mgc is 68mm. It' a big difference and its small size make it very enjoyable to solve. The shades of the Aofu are more vibrant than the Mgc's, and it has an anti-popping mechanism which actually works since I rarely get any pops when solving it, which isn't true for the MGC.

In conclusion, the WRM is currently the best choice as of 2022, it feels more 'premium' than the MGC and It is considerably smaller than the MGC.

i ended up getting WRM for all of them, and after using them for a while now and comparing it to the MGC series, the WRM is definitely better. i agree with everything you said. would recommend WRM to anyone assuming budget is not a concern

 

[Gan Is best]

gan 356 x is personely the best also my main

 

[ProStar]

gan 356 x is personely the best also my main

The Gan 356X, while still a solid cube, is pretty old at this point and definitely not the best on the market. There's no need to change your main, but for someone deciding to buy a new 3x3 main, the 356X would not be the best recommendation. The best 3x3s on the market are probably:

Budget - RS3M? Not 100% sure on thsi one
Low-medium price - RS3M Super
Medium price - Tornado V3
Top price - Gan 13M Pro? Unless for some reason the 11 or 12 is better

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

The QiYi Thunderclap V3 is an excellent starter cube, costing only ~$10 depending on where you buy it. It has extremely good corner cutting, and I think that it deserves to be in the great catergory.

 

[dapper]

i think the tornado v3 and gan 13 should be added to the list considering they're currently the best flagships on the market (though there might be some upcoming cubes that will beat the two), and they're good cubes that are recommended by a lot of people

 

[Nevan J]

So I have been looking for a pyraminx, and I've done a lot of research, and its basically the yuxin little magic and the weilong which people use the most. But on cubelelo.com (from where I buy cubes) these pyraminxes aren't there. There's only the bell V2, Qiyi MS and Gan pyraminx

which one should I buy? (price doesn't matter)
also do top pyraminxers use the gan pyraminx?

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

So I have been looking for a pyraminx, and I've done a lot of research, and its basically the yuxin little magic and the weilong which people use the most. But on cubelelo.com (from where I buy cubes) these pyraminxes aren't there. There's only the bell V2, Qiyi MS and Gan pyraminx

which one should I buy? (price doesn't matter)
also do top pyraminxers use the gan pyraminx?

gan enhanced. its stable and super smooth.

 

[Nevan J]

gan enhanced. its stable and super smooth.

Is it world class? (i mean i kinda want to get into this event so yea)

 

[Cuber142857]

Last updated May 25th, 2022 at 3:02 P.M - If you suggest any changes to these recommendations, please comment below which your recommendation and reason for the change. These suggestions are for the community and by the community, so please help keep these suggestions up to date by replying here with changes.
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Budget - Dirt Cheap Cubes only
Great - Pretty good and you won't have to sell your house
Expert - The best cube on the market

Recommended 2x2x2:

• Budget: QiYi MS 2x2 - $6.95 - A smooth cube with decent performance.
• Great: MGC 2x2 - $9.99 - Fast cube, corner-cutting is legendary.
• Expert: QiYi Valk 2M - $19.95 - Used by current world record average holder Zayn Khanani - or YJ MGC2 Elite - $20.99 - Crispy fast cube, corner-cutting is excellent.

Recommended 3x3x3:

• Budget: Yulong V2M 3x3- $7.95 or QiYi MS 3x3- $7.95 - Cubes that feel crispy and smooth with ok corner-cutting, excellent for the price.
• Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 - $8.95 or MoYu RS3M 2021 MagLev - 13.99 - Both are very good cubes with very good corner cutting, the maglev adds more stability.
• Expert: GAN 11M Pro 3x3 - $64.95 or Dayan Tengyun v1 $25.95 or MoYu Weilong WR M (2021 Maglev) - $38.99 - All very stable cubes, the Gan is fast, the Tengyun is controllable, and the WRM is a little bit of both. - The gan is used by many world-class solvers.

Recommended 4x4x4:

• Budget: YJ Zhilong Mini 4x4 - $12.95 or Meilong 4x4 - $6.99 - Cheap options that perform ok, but be warned they may strip and pop.
• Great: YJ MGC 4x4 - $19.99 - A cheap-feeling cube with good corner cutting, very fast, stable, and enjoyable to turn.
• Expert: MoYu AoSu 4x4 WR M - 43.99 - or MoYu AoSu 4x4 GTS2 M - $44.99 - Expensive feeling cubes that are fast and stable.

Recommended 5x5x5:

• Budget: Meilong 5x5 - $7.95 or YJ ZhiChuang Mini Magnetic 5x5 - $14.95
• Great: YJ MGC 5x5 - $21.95
• Expert: QiYi Valk 5M $49.95

Recommended 6x6x6:

• Budget: YuXin Little Magic 6x6 - $14.95 or YJ Yushi 6x6 V2 M - $17.99
• Great: YJ MGC 6x6 - $25.99 - A cheaper feel, excellent corner-cutting, pops are rare. - Used by many fast speedsolvers.
• Expert: Shadow M - $49.95

Recommended 7x7x7:

• Budget: QiYi QiXing 7x7 - $16.99 - Poor performing cube, it gets the job done though.
• Great: YJ MGC 7x7 - $35.99 - A cheaper feel, excellent corner-cutting, pops are rare. - Used by many fast speedsolvers.
• Expert: Yuxin Hays 7 M - $54.95 or XMan Spark 7x7 - $49.95

Recommended Megaminx:

• Budget: Qiyi Qiheng - $7.95 - A poor-performing budget megaminx, very slow and locky.
• Great: YJ YuHu Megaminx V2 M - $13.99 - The fastest megaminx on the market, excellent corner-cutting, and a very crunchy feel.
• Expert: X Man Galaxy v2 M - $29.99 - or Dayan Megaminx V2 M - $32.99 - Slow cubes, that can be set up to be fast, good corner-cutting. - A moded X Man Galaxy was used by current average and single megaminx world record holder Juan Pablo Huanqui.

Recommended Skewb:

• Budget: QiYi QiCheng Skewb - $7.50 - Slow unstable cube, but it gets the job done.
• Great: X Man Wingy Skewb - $19.99 - Crunchy, excellent stability but overall, very slow.
• Expert: Gan Skewb M Standard - $21.99 - Smooth, fast, and stable with excellent corner-cutting. - Used by Carter Kucala, current skewb world record average holder.

Recommended Clock:

• Budget: Lingao Clock - $9.95 - Very locky, performance is poor.
• Great: Shengshou Clock - $9.95 - Locky, overall poor performance.
• Expert: QiYi Magnetic Clock - $34.95 - Very smooth, honestly your only option if you want to get serious about clock. - All world-class solvers use this clock.

Recommended Pyraminx:

• Budget: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx - $7.99 - A slower option, poor corner-cutting, but very consistent and good for it's price.
• Great: Yuxin Little Magic - $8.99 or QiYi MS Pyraminx $9.99 - Both feel cheaper but very smooth and fast. - Both cubes have or are mained by Tymon Kolasinski, a former pyraminx world record holder.
• Expert: GAN Pyraminx- $18.95 - Very smooth but also unstable, corner-cutting is ok.

Recommended Square-1:

• Budget: Qiyi Qifa S - $7.99 or Yuxin Little Magic Square 1 - $6.99 - Both feel cheap and locky, but perform well for their price, the QiYi Qifa has better corner-cutting.
• Great: X-Man Volt $13.99 - Crunchy and good corner cutting but very unstable at high TPS.
• Expert: YJ MGC Square-1 - $20.99 - A buttery smooth, fast cube, most people consider it the best on the market. - Almost all world-class solvers use this cube.

Recommended MBLD cubes:

• Budget: Yuxin Little Magic 3x3 $4.95 - A cube that feels cheap but performs ok. - Used by Graham Siggins, the current Multiblind world record holder.
• Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 - $8.95 - A hollow, snappy, well-performing cube.
• Expert: MoYu Weilong WR M 2021 $29.95 - A very smooth, buttery cube with excellent corner-cutting. - Mostly too expensive to use in large muliblind attempts.

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There are many places to buy puzzles, and depending on what country you live in, shipping will be cheaper. Below is a list of stores to consider:

• https://www.kewbz.co.uk/ (UK)
• https://www.kubuswinkel.nl (Netherlands)
• https://www.speedcube.nl (Netherlands)
• https://speedcubeshop.com/ (USA)
• https://thecubicle.us/ (USA)
• https://cubedepotusa.com (USA)
• https://www.hknowstore.com/ (Hong Kong)
• https://www.speedcube.com.au/ (Australia)
• https://www.magiccubemall.com/ (Asia)
• https://www.aliexpress.com (China)
• https://www.cubelelo.com/ (South Asia)
• https://cubezz.com/ (Asia)
• https://cubenamastore.com/ (India)

6x6 Expert - MoYu Aoshi WR M?
7x7 Expert - MoYu Aofu WR M?
5x5 Expert - MoYu Aochuang WR M?
Skewb Expert - MoYu Weilong Skewb MagLev/RS Skewb M

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

Is it world class? (i mean i kinda want to get into this event so yea)

I have the yuxin, gan enhanced, bell v1 and rs, but I'm not even sub-10 in pyraminx, so don't take this seriously, but imo the yuxin is good with setups while the gan is ready for comps ootb. As an amateur pyraminxer, I would say the gan is very good as it is the most stable and is very smooth which is very comfortable to use.

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

6x6 Expert - MoYu Aoshi WR M?
7x7 Expert - MoYu Aofu WR M?
5x5 Expert - MoYu Aochuang WR M?
Skewb Expert - MoYu Weilong Skewb MagLev/RS Skewb M

that list is very very old and outdated and is no longer useful, and it doesn't even have the tornado v3.

My updated list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1etlGEtpgXsXUYHmKUZt657C9G3m2mf8ilW6hP9JhsUs/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

Last updated May 25th, 2022 at 3:02 P.M - If you suggest any changes to these recommendations, please comment below which your recommendation and reason for the change. These suggestions are for the community and by the community, so please help keep these suggestions up to date by replying here with changes.
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Budget - Dirt Cheap Cubes only
Great - Pretty good and you won't have to sell your house
Expert - The best cube on the market

Recommended 2x2x2:

• Budget: QiYi MS 2x2 - $6.95 - A smooth cube with decent performance.
• Great: MGC 2x2 - $9.99 - Fast cube, corner-cutting is legendary.
• Expert: QiYi Valk 2M - $19.95 - Used by current world record average holder Zayn Khanani - or YJ MGC2 Elite - $20.99 - Crispy fast cube, corner-cutting is excellent.

Recommended 3x3x3:

• Budget: Yulong V2M 3x3- $7.95 or QiYi MS 3x3- $7.95 - Cubes that feel crispy and smooth with ok corner-cutting, excellent for the price.
• Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 - $8.95 or MoYu RS3M 2021 MagLev - 13.99 - Both are very good cubes with very good corner cutting, the maglev adds more stability.
• Expert: GAN 11M Pro 3x3 - $64.95 or Dayan Tengyun v1 $25.95 or MoYu Weilong WR M (2021 Maglev) - $38.99 - All very stable cubes, the Gan is fast, the Tengyun is controllable, and the WRM is a little bit of both. - The gan is used by many world-class solvers.

Recommended 4x4x4:

• Budget: YJ Zhilong Mini 4x4 - $12.95 or Meilong 4x4 - $6.99 - Cheap options that perform ok, but be warned they may strip and pop.
• Great: YJ MGC 4x4 - $19.99 - A cheap-feeling cube with good corner cutting, very fast, stable, and enjoyable to turn.
• Expert: MoYu AoSu 4x4 WR M - 43.99 - or MoYu AoSu 4x4 GTS2 M - $44.99 - Expensive feeling cubes that are fast and stable.

Recommended 5x5x5:

• Budget: Meilong 5x5 - $7.95 or YJ ZhiChuang Mini Magnetic 5x5 - $14.95
• Great: YJ MGC 5x5 - $21.95
• Expert: QiYi Valk 5M $49.95

Recommended 6x6x6:

• Budget: YuXin Little Magic 6x6 - $14.95 or YJ Yushi 6x6 V2 M - $17.99
• Great: YJ MGC 6x6 - $25.99 - A cheaper feel, excellent corner-cutting, pops are rare. - Used by many fast speedsolvers.
• Expert: Shadow M - $49.95

Recommended 7x7x7:

• Budget: QiYi QiXing 7x7 - $16.99 - Poor performing cube, it gets the job done though.
• Great: YJ MGC 7x7 - $35.99 - A cheaper feel, excellent corner-cutting, pops are rare. - Used by many fast speedsolvers.
• Expert: Yuxin Hays 7 M - $54.95 or XMan Spark 7x7 - $49.95

Recommended Megaminx:

• Budget: Qiyi Qiheng - $7.95 - A poor-performing budget megaminx, very slow and locky.
• Great: YJ YuHu Megaminx V2 M - $13.99 - The fastest megaminx on the market, excellent corner-cutting, and a very crunchy feel.
• Expert: X Man Galaxy v2 M - $29.99 - or Dayan Megaminx V2 M - $32.99 - Slow cubes, that can be set up to be fast, good corner-cutting. - A moded X Man Galaxy was used by current average and single megaminx world record holder Juan Pablo Huanqui.

Recommended Skewb:

• Budget: QiYi QiCheng Skewb - $7.50 - Slow unstable cube, but it gets the job done.
• Great: X Man Wingy Skewb - $19.99 - Crunchy, excellent stability but overall, very slow.
• Expert: Gan Skewb M Standard - $21.99 - Smooth, fast, and stable with excellent corner-cutting. - Used by Carter Kucala, current skewb world record average holder.

Recommended Clock:

• Budget: Lingao Clock - $9.95 - Very locky, performance is poor.
• Great: Shengshou Clock - $9.95 - Locky, overall poor performance.
• Expert: QiYi Magnetic Clock - $34.95 - Very smooth, honestly your only option if you want to get serious about clock. - All world-class solvers use this clock.

Recommended Pyraminx:

• Budget: Yulong v2 M Pyraminx - $7.99 - A slower option, poor corner-cutting, but very consistent and good for it's price.
• Great: Yuxin Little Magic - $8.99 or QiYi MS Pyraminx $9.99 - Both feel cheaper but very smooth and fast. - Both cubes have or are mained by Tymon Kolasinski, a former pyraminx world record holder.
• Expert: GAN Pyraminx- $18.95 - Very smooth but also unstable, corner-cutting is ok.

Recommended Square-1:

• Budget: Qiyi Qifa S - $7.99 or Yuxin Little Magic Square 1 - $6.99 - Both feel cheap and locky, but perform well for their price, the QiYi Qifa has better corner-cutting.
• Great: X-Man Volt $13.99 - Crunchy and good corner cutting but very unstable at high TPS.
• Expert: YJ MGC Square-1 - $20.99 - A buttery smooth, fast cube, most people consider it the best on the market. - Almost all world-class solvers use this cube.

Recommended MBLD cubes:

• Budget: Yuxin Little Magic 3x3 $4.95 - A cube that feels cheap but performs ok. - Used by Graham Siggins, the current Multiblind world record holder.
• Great: MoYu RS3M 2020 3x3 - $8.95 - A hollow, snappy, well-performing cube.
• Expert: MoYu Weilong WR M 2021 $29.95 - A very smooth, buttery cube with excellent corner-cutting. - Mostly too expensive to use in large muliblind attempts.

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There are many places to buy puzzles, and depending on what country you live in, shipping will be cheaper. Below is a list of stores to consider:

• https://www.kewbz.co.uk/ (UK)
• https://www.kubuswinkel.nl (Netherlands)
• https://www.speedcube.nl (Netherlands)
• https://speedcubeshop.com/ (USA)
• https://thecubicle.us/ (USA)
• https://cubedepotusa.com (USA)
• https://www.hknowstore.com/ (Hong Kong)
• https://www.speedcube.com.au/ (Australia)
• https://www.magiccubemall.com/ (Asia)
• https://www.aliexpress.com (China)
• https://www.cubelelo.com/ (South Asia)
• https://cubezz.com/ (Asia)
• https://cubenamastore.com/ (India)

Only some what useful for cubers maining the LanLan 2x2, Rubik's 3x3, GAN 460 M, eastsheen 5x5, V-cube 6, MoYu AoFu pillowed 7x7, Mefferts pyraminx, QJ megaminx, Calvin's square-1, mf8 skewb and Baitai clock.

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

WCA Speed Cubes Recommendation List

2x2:
Budget - MoYu RS2 M Evolution ($10)
Great - YJ MGC Elite ($21)
Expert - YJ MGC Elite ($21)

3x3:
Budget - MoYu RS3 M 2020 ($9)
Great - MoreTry TianMa X3 Snap ($28)
Expert - X-Man Tornado v3 M Pioneer ($40)

4x4:
Budget - YJ ZhiLong Mini 4x4 M ($14)
Great - YJ ZhiLong Mini 4x4 M ($14)
Expert - YJ ZhiLong Mini 4x4 M ($14)

5x5:
Budget - MoYu MeiLong 5x5 M ($13)
Great - YJ MGC 5x5 ($23)
Expert - DaYan NeZha 5x5 M ($38)

6x6:
Budget - YJ YuShi v2 M ($18)
Great - YJ MGC 6x6 ($26)
Expert - MoYu AoShi WR M ($44)

7x7:
Budget - YJ YuFu v2 M ($21)
Great - YJ MGC 7x7 ($36)
Expert - MoYu AoFu WR M ($50)

Megaminx:
Budget - YJ YuHu v2 M ($14)
Great - YJ YuHu v2 M ($14)
Expert - DaYan Megaminx v2 M ($33)

Skewb:
Budget - Cyclone Boys Magnetic Skewb ($10), MoYu RS Skewb M ($10)
Great - X-Man Wingy Skewb ($15), MoYu WeiLong Skewb Maglev ($20)
Expert - GAN Skewb M Enhanced ($32)

Pyraminx:
Budget - Yuxin Little Magic M Pyraminx ($9)
Great - Yuxin Little Magic M Pyraminx ($9), MoYu WeiLong Pyraminx M ($15)
Expert - GAN Pyraminx M Enhanced ($29)

Square-1:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic Square-1 M ($11)
Great - YJ MGC Square-1 ($21)
Expert - YJ MGC Square-1 ($21)

Clock:
Budget - ShengShou Magnetic Clock ($11)
Great - QiYi Magnetic Clock ($33)
Expert - QiYi Magnetic Clock ($33)

3x3 OH:
Budget - DaYan GuHong v3 M ($12)
Great - DaYan GuHong v3 M ($12)
Expert - GAN Mini M Pro UV Coated ($48)


This is my list for 2023 and maybe a bit subjective, but I have tried most of the puzzles on my list.