[Help Thread] Puzzle Recommendations

Fukuoka Kengo James said:
WCA Puzzles Recommendation List (Nov 2023)


2x2:
Budget - MoYu RS2 M Evolution ($10)
Great - YJ MGC Elite 2x2 ($21)
Expert - GAN 251 M Leap UV Coated ($46)

3x3:
Budget - MoYu RS3 M 2020 ($9)
Great - X-Man Tornado V3 Flagship ($33), MoYu RS3 M V5 Ball Core Maglev UV Coated ($25)
Expert - MoYu WeiLong WRM V9 PiCube Limited Edition ($44), GAN12 M Maglev UV Coated ($59)

4x4:
Budget - YJ ZhiLong Mini 4x4 M ($14)
Great - YJ ZhiLong Mini 4x4 M ($14)
Expert - MoYu AoSu WR M ($44)

5x5:
Budget - QiYi MS 5x5 ($17)
Great - YJ MGC 5x5 ($23)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoChuang WR M ($60)

6x6:
Budget - YJ MGC 6x6 ($26)
Great - MoYu AoShi WR M ($44)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoShi WR M ($72)

7x7:
Budget - YJ MGC 7x7 ($36)
Great - MoYu AoFu WR M ($50)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoFu WR M ($78)

Megaminx:
Budget - YJ YuHu V2 M ($14)
Great - DaYan Megaminx V2 M ($33)
Expert - DaYan Megaminx Pro M ($37)

Skewb:
Budget - MoYu RS Skewb M ($10)
Great - MoYu WeiLong Skewb M Maglev ($20)
Expert - GAN Skewb M Enhanced UV Coated ($38)

Pyraminx:
Budget - Yuxin Little Magic M Pyraminx ($9)
Great - MoYu WeiLong Pyraminx Magnetic ($15)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu WeiLong Pyraminx ($29)

Square-1:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic Square-1 M ($11)
Great - YJ MGC Square-1 ($21)
Expert - YJ MGC Square-1 ($21)

Clock:
Budget - ShengShou Magnetic Clock ($11)
Great - QiYi Magnetic Clock ($33)
Expert - PiCube Premium QiYi Magnetic Clock ($59)

3x3 OH:
Budget - DaYan GuHong V3 M ($12)
Great - DaYan GuHong Pro M 54mm Maglev ($20)
Expert - DaYan GuHong Pro M 54mm Maglev ($20)

3x3 BLD:
Budget - MoYu RS3 M 2020 ($9)
Great - Moretry TianMa X3 Snap ($28)
Expert - MoYu WeiLong GTS3 M ($36)

4x4 BLD:
Budget - MoYu RS4 M ($16)
Great - MoYu RS4 M ($16)
Expert - MoYu AoSu GTS2 M ($46)

5x5 BLD:
Budget - YJ MGC 5x5 ($23)
Great - MoYu AoChuang WR M ($40)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoChuang WR M ($60)
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You should put the mgc 4 there even if you dont like it since many others do like it and this list should be for everyone (great list tho)
 
Fukuoka Kengo James said:
WCA Puzzles Recommendation List (Nov 2023)


2x2:
Budget - MoYu RS2 M Evolution ($10)
Great - YJ MGC Elite 2x2 ($21)
Expert - GAN 251 M Leap UV Coated ($46)

3x3:
Budget - MoYu RS3 M 2020 ($9)
Great - X-Man Tornado V3 Flagship ($33), MoYu RS3 M V5 Ball Core Maglev UV Coated ($25)
Expert - MoYu WeiLong WRM V9 PiCube Limited Edition ($44), GAN12 M Maglev UV Coated ($59)

4x4:
Budget - YJ ZhiLong Mini 4x4 M ($14)
Great - YJ ZhiLong Mini 4x4 M ($14)
Expert - MoYu AoSu WR M ($44)

5x5:
Budget - QiYi MS 5x5 ($17)
Great - YJ MGC 5x5 ($23)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoChuang WR M ($60)

6x6:
Budget - YJ MGC 6x6 ($26)
Great - MoYu AoShi WR M ($44)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoShi WR M ($72)

7x7:
Budget - YJ MGC 7x7 ($36)
Great - MoYu AoFu WR M ($50)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoFu WR M ($78)

Megaminx:
Budget - YJ YuHu V2 M ($14)
Great - DaYan Megaminx V2 M ($33)
Expert - DaYan Megaminx Pro M ($37)

Skewb:
Budget - MoYu RS Skewb M ($10)
Great - MoYu WeiLong Skewb M Maglev ($20)
Expert - GAN Skewb M Enhanced UV Coated ($38)

Pyraminx:
Budget - Yuxin Little Magic M Pyraminx ($9)
Great - MoYu WeiLong Pyraminx Magnetic ($15)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu WeiLong Pyraminx ($29)

Square-1:
Budget - YuXin Little Magic Square-1 M ($11)
Great - YJ MGC Square-1 ($21)
Expert - YJ MGC Square-1 ($21)

Clock:
Budget - ShengShou Magnetic Clock ($11)
Great - QiYi Magnetic Clock ($33)
Expert - PiCube Premium QiYi Magnetic Clock ($59)

3x3 OH:
Budget - DaYan GuHong V3 M ($12)
Great - DaYan GuHong Pro M 54mm Maglev ($20)
Expert - DaYan GuHong Pro M 54mm Maglev ($20)

3x3 BLD:
Budget - MoYu RS3 M 2020 ($9)
Great - Moretry TianMa X3 Snap ($28)
Expert - MoYu WeiLong GTS3 M ($36)

4x4 BLD:
Budget - MoYu RS4 M ($16)
Great - MoYu RS4 M ($16)
Expert - MoYu AoSu GTS2 M ($46)

5x5 BLD:
Budget - YJ MGC 5x5 ($23)
Great - MoYu AoChuang WR M ($40)
Expert - PiCube Premium Ball Core MoYu AoChuang WR M ($60)
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I’ve heard the 251m Leap’s magnets are way too strong for most people.
 
Here is my list of recommendations for 4x4x4 speedcubes, I intend to make similar guides for other events:

speedcubing.org

What is the best 4x4 speedcube in 2023?

If you want to still get into 4x4x4 speedsolving then I hope to explain which is the best 4x4 on the market at the end of 2023 so you can buy the one that is going to get you the best times. Cube manufacturers do not release new 4x4s as frequently as 3x3s which means that this guide will remain...
speedcubing.org speedcubing.org
 
gsingh said:
I'm sorry but considering the fact that you aren't even sub 1:50 officially your opinion doesn't matter too much
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I’m now even faster than that on 5x5, and I actually do 4BLD as well. You’ll see my profile being updated next week.
My progression thread:
www.speedsolving.com

Fukuoka Kengo James' Progression Thread

I've seen many other cubers making progress with their very own progression threads, so I've decided to make one for myself. 2×2 - average sub 4 - main: PiCube GAN 251 M Pro UV w 16 magnets core - method: Ortega PBL - goal: learn full CLL and average sub3.5 3×3 - average sub13 - main: PiCube...
www.speedsolving.com www.speedsolving.com
 
gsingh said:
I'm sorry but considering the fact that you aren't even sub 1:50 officially your opinion doesn't matter too much
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Also I don’t have a PR in 6x6 but I rank in top 100 in Japan for 7x7 Single. Not having chance to compete doesn’t mean that I don’t do the event, and that’s why I assume you should be somewhat decent in 4BLD. You seems care a lot about 4x4
 
Fukuoka Kengo James said:
I’m now even faster than that on 5x5, and I actually do 4BLD as well. You’ll see my profile being updated next week. What’s your 4BLD PB? Are you at least like sub 10? Also I don’t have a PR in 6x6 but I rank in top 100 in Japan for 7x7 Single. Not having chance to compete doesn’t mean that I don’t do the event, and that’s why I assume you should be somewhat decent in 4BLD. You seems care a lot about 4x4
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It's cool to see that you've improved, but you trying to convince people that the MGC4 is a terrible cube is not going to work. The main problem with your argument is the fact that the MGC is a great cube. Nothing you say will change that. You can go ahead and keep trying to convince people if you want, but your opinion is nothing compared to the likes of Sebastian Weyer and Feliks Zemdegs (ranked second and third in the world respectively), who both use the MGC4 and have had much success with it. In fact, I have also had a lot of success with it, getting a 35.88 official average.

Also, 4x4 and 4BLD have little correlation. The solving method is completely different, and there is no reason that if someone is decent at a sighted event, they should also be able to do it blindfolded fairly quickly as well. And as you may have noticed, I'm not trying to convince people what cubes to use for 4BLD and which cubes they shouldn't use. My opinion would be completely worthless, similarly to how you are trying to convince people to not buy the MGC when it is in fact a great cube, as anyone even slightly experienced with 4x4 will tell you.

Also, bringing up your 7x7 ranking has nothing to do with your argument. Looking at your WCA profile, your 7x7 PR is 5:44, which takes maybe a week of practice at most. Maybe kind of impressive if you look at the ranking alone, but really quite unimportant given that your entire argument is based on why the MGC4 sucks.
 
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Fukuoka Kengo James said:
What’s your 4BLD PB? Are you at least like sub 10?
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Fukuoka Kengo James said:
Also I don’t have a PR in 6x6 but I rank in top 100 in Japan for 7x7 Single. Not having chance to compete doesn’t mean that I don’t do the event, and that’s why I assume you should be somewhat decent in 4BLD. You seems care a lot about 4x4
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What I was going to say before @gsingh posted.
Not many people do 4bld so I don't think how well a cube performs for 4bld should really be taken into consideration too much.
 
gsingh said:
It's cool to see that you've improved, but you trying to convince people that the MGC4 is a terrible cube is not going to work. The main problem with your argument is the fact that the MGC is a great cube. Nothing you say will change that. You can go ahead and keep trying to convince people if you want, but your opinion is nothing compared to the likes of Sebastian Weyer and Feliks Zemdegs (ranked second and third in the world respectively), who both use the MGC4 and have had much success with it. In fact, I have also had a lot of success with it, getting a 35.88 official average.

Also, 4x4 and 4BLD have little correlation. The solving method is completely different, and there is no reason that if someone is decent at a sighted event, they should also be able to do it blindfolded fairly quickly as well. And as you may have noticed, I'm not trying to convince people what cubes to use for 4BLD and which cubes they shouldn't use. My opinion would be completely worthless, similarly to how you are trying to convince people to not buy the MGC when it is in fact a great cube, as anyone even slightly experienced with 4x4 will tell you.

Also, bringing up your 7x7 ranking has nothing to do with your argument. Looking at your WCA profile, your 7x7 PR is 5:44, which takes maybe a week of practice at most. Maybe kind of impressive if you look at the ranking alone, but really quite unimportant given that your entire argument is based on why the MGC4 sucks.
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And actually I’m consistently sub 5 on 7x7 now, but my point is that there’s no way I can’t solve a 6x6 if I can solve a 7x7, but I don’t have a 6x6 PR in my profile as for now. So does it mean that I don’t know anything about 6x6 despite knowing Yau6?
 
Fukuoka Kengo James said:
And actually I’m consistently sub 5 on 7x7 now, but my point is that there’s no way I can’t solve a 6x6 if I can solve a 7x7, but I don’t have a 6x6 PR in my profile as for now. So does it mean that I don’t know anything about 6x6 despite knowing Yau6?
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I'll say it again: What does that have to do with the MGC4?
 
Fukuoka Kengo James said:
It’s not that bad at all, but definitely over hyped. It should not worth more than the yj mini 4x4
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How is it overhyped? It's one of the best, if not the best performing 4x4 on the market, for a reasonable price. There could be an argument made that it is underhyped, as people tend to think that other, more expensive 4x4's are better performing, and that is only the case for the WRM, if even. And the mini YJ has a size that most people can't use, so there is no reason for people to buy it over the MGC.
 
Personally, I hate my MGC 4x4, but that is not because the cube sucks, but because I don't clean or lube it ever, and it's missing a bunch of internal pieces. I've tried MGC 4x4s of people who actually take care of it, and it's quite a nice cube. I think I would be instantly sub 40 on 4x4 with one of those. My 4BLD exec could also be a lot faster, since BLD exec is especially turning based (I suck at turning in general, my BLD times are entirely memo carried)
 
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