# N Perms - What's yours?

#### waffle=ijm

##### Waffo
FROM BREST

(R' U L' U2 R U' L)2
=
z (D' R U' R2 D R' U)2 z'
=
(L' U R' U2' L U' R)2
=
z (U' R D' R2 U R' D)2 z'

R' U R' F R F' R U' R' F' U F R U R' U' R
inv=
R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' F R' F' R U' R

L' U' L U' (L' U' L F L' U' L U L F' L2 U L) U2 L' U L

z (U' R2' U) (R U R' F') (R U R' U') (R' F R2 U') (R' U2 R2 U) z'

(r D' r' U2)5

-*-*-*-*-

(R U' L U2 R' U L')2
=
z (D R' U R2 D' R U')2 z'
=
(L U' R U2 L' U R')2
=
z (U R' D R2 U' R D')2 z'

R U R' U (R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R') U2 R U' R'

F' R2 U R2 U' R2 F U2 F' R2 U R2 U' R2 F

(r' D r U2)5

#### Ultimate Cuber

##### Member
What N-Permutations do you use?

Here are the algorithms that I use...
Na: R U R' U (R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2' R U' R')
Nb: (R' U R U') (R' F' U') (F R U) (R' F R' F') (R U' R)

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#### TDM

##### Member
So yeah if you use CFOP I would like to know what n-perms you use.

Here are the algorithms that I use...
Na: R U R' U (R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2' R U' R')
Nb: (R' U R U') (R' F' U') (F R U) (R' F R' F') (R U' R)
I use the same Na, and the inverse of that Nb.

#### Lazy Einstein

##### Alg Ninja
I use the same Na, and the inverse of that Nb.

Never thought of trying that. ^

N(a)
(R U R' U) (R U R' F') (R U R' U') (R' F) (R2 U' R') U2 (R U' R') Use this one atm
z (U R' D R2 U') (R [D' U] R' D R2 U' R D') Told I should use this one though for sub-1

N(b)
z (U' R D') (R2' U R' [D U'] R D') (R2' U R' D)

#### nanocube

##### Member
Hi,

Could someone please post, or point me to, a good execution of these n perms (with slow motion and fingersticks if possible) :
Na : (R' U L' U2 R U' L)2
Nb: (R U' L U2 R' U L')2

They are recommended by Badmephisto, but it is the only Plls of his method that I can seem to execute fast enough.

Nanocube
(45 average)

#### ySoSrs

##### Member
You swapped Na and Nb. I use the same alg for Nb (that would be (R' U L' U2 R U' L)2) but do a rotation first which makes it easier to execute (imo): z (D' R U' R2 D R' U)2.
For Na I mainly use the alg mentioned above: (R U R' U) (R U R' F') (R U R' U') (R' F) (R2 U' R') U2 (R U' R')
It has a lot of triggers and is easy to execute.

#### IAmAPerson

##### Member
Here's mine:
(A perm)(T perm)

I should probably learn a better one though.

#### TDM

##### Member
I don't any more; I use that same Nb now.
now I use either
z U' R' U D' R U' R2 D R' D' R2 U D R' U' R U z'
or
r' D' F r U' r' F' D r2 U r' U' L' U r U'
for 3x3, and the old RUF one for bigcubes.

#### guysensei1

##### Member
now I use either
z U' R' U D' R U' R2 D R' D' R2 U D R' U' R U z'

I feel so honored when I see someone using the N perm that I found

EDIT: also I found this N perm from some old video somewhere. Feels cool to do.
F r' R2 U r' U2 x' R U' R U R2 F2 R2 r2 u'

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#### Mes

##### Member
(L U' R U2 L' U R)2 U If anyone has anything faster please respond!

#### pdilla

##### Member
This thread is literally seven pages of N perm algs

Seriously, right?

Anywho, mine are:

Na: R U R' U (R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R') U2 R U' R'
Nb: L' U' L U (R' U2' R U R' z R2 U R' D R U') R' U' R U

In the parenthesis are J perms.

#### thatt guy

##### Member
na perm= (r' D r U2) x5
nb perm=(r D r' U2) x5

#### biscuit

##### Member
Seriously, right?

Anywho, mine are:

Na: R U R' U (R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R') U2 R U' R'
Nb: L' U' L U (R' U2' R U R' z R2 U R' D R U') R' U' R U

In the parenthesis are J perms.

If you are doing R U R' U [J perm] U2 R U' R', why not do the lefty equivalent for NB perms? It's just L' U' L U' [J(B?) perm] U2 L' U L

#### qwertycuber

##### Member
(R U R' U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2 R U' R') Na perm

(R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' F R' F' R U' R) Nb perm

#### qaz

##### Member
R U R' U (R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R') U2 R U' R'
r' D' F r U' r' F' D r2 U r' U' r' F r F'

#### 2180161

##### Member
Na: (r' D r U2) x5
Nb: (r D' r' U2) x5

#### Aaron Lau

##### Member
can anyone even sub 1 : R U R' U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2 R U' R

#### 2180161

##### Member
can anyone even sub 1 : R U R' U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2 R U' R

If you were turning a 10TPS, you could not sub-1. If you were turning greater that 21 TPS, then it would be possible.