Memory Methods

How to memorize when using Turbo Edges method,we solve 2 edges at a time using Turbo edges,so I have some big confusions on how the memorization should go like if I use letter pairs? Could someone just help me out with this.pl thanks in advance
 
How to memorize when using Turbo Edges method,we solve 2 edges at a time using Turbo edges,so I have some big confusions on how the memorization should go like if I use letter pairs? Could someone just help me out with this.pl thanks in advance

It's just the same as M2 or Old Pochmann, just setup whatever 2 letters to the U layer and perform the alg
 
How to memorize when using Turbo Edges method,we solve 2 edges at a time using Turbo edges,so I have some big confusions on how the memorization should go like if I use letter pairs? Could someone just help me out with this.pl thanks in advance
So what you want to do is memorise your images in pairs. What I do when there is an odd number or targets; is use the letter of the final target plus its neighbouring sticker on the same piece to generate the image. That way you'll know it's odd, as it's impossible to shoot to two orietations of a piece at the same time. Unless your using conjugates to flip the piece which isn't very efficient.
 
When I first started I marked edges by their position (ACube style) then by their orientation ('o' or 'u'). To separate, for corners I had ACube positions and 'h' for oriented corners (h), 'd' for F/B on top corners (depth), and 's' for R/L on top corners (side), so I could always tell by the letter whether it was a corner or edge. I grew out of this by not even giving a number to oriented cubies. Then I started mapping piece movement with numbers for every single sticker (up to 54). Now I don't really know what I do. I just remember the piece movement
 
I only just really started learning BLD, but I've been memorizing corners using Pokemon. If the face is facing me, then the Top left corner is a first stage pokemon of that color, the Top right is its next evolution, and the bottom left is the final evolution. The last corner is a legendary pokemon.

I started using this because I was sick of using numbers/letters and forgetting which one went where. With this, I don't really need to memorize the position of a letter; I already know the names of Pokemon, and I can easily see visually where each one is. Before, I was using letters for corners and could only do 5 corners max; now, I can do all of them pretty easily. :D

Now, to find a good method for edges...
 
I can't be bothered to trawl through the thread to see whether my question has been asked before so here goes:

Anyone got any ideas of how to memo a megaminx? I like letter systems, but there are 60 edge and 60 corner stickers on a megaminx so I'm a bit stuck there. I'd rather not use pure visual memo, because dodecahedrons confuse me a bit :p

I did a bld-one-piece-at-a-time solve just now, so I know I can do the whole thing now.
 
I'm really liking the idea of doing megaminx orient-permute, for both corners and edges. Of course, you have to sort of arbitrarily pick a "correct" orientation; it doesn't matter what it is; it just has to be fixed. At first, it sounds like a really stupid idea, but there are two big advantages:
1. For permutation, you only need 30 "letters" for the edges, and 20 letters for the corners, so it's much more manageable - you can just use the same memo scheme you use for normal cubes, but with 6 extra letters worth of pairs for the edges. I think it will make memo much more manageable.
2. When it comes to solving, you'll have fewer cases to deal with setting up for the next algorithm, since the pieces are already oriented a certain way.

When I've done megaminx BLD in the past, I assigned each face a letter (A-L), and then assigned each sticker on that face a letter (A-E). Then I did face-sticker as a letter pair. So I needed a full letter pair for each piece. So by going to orient-permute, I'll be able to pack permutation two to an image. Orientation I could pack even tighter (perhaps hexadecimal, like I once did years ago for cubes). So the memo should actually be smaller with orient-permute, and hopefully it will be less confusing to encode, decode, and solve.

But I still haven't gotten around to trying orient-permute yet; maybe it won't work well at all. I'm looking forward to finding out. I will probably try it sometime early next year. (For now, I'm still trying to get through the Christmas Competition. :))
 
Anyone got any ideas of how to memo a megaminx? I like letter systems, but there are 60 edge and 60 corner stickers on a megaminx so I'm a bit stuck there. I'd rather not use pure visual memo, because dodecahedrons confuse me a bit :p

You could use two letters per piece. So, one letter for the face and the other letter for the piece in that face. I've never thought about solving a megaminx blindfolded, so that's just a rough guess how it might work. I'm pretty sure Mike has already posted how he memorizes a megaminx, btw., but i can't find it right now.

Ninja'ed by Mike :)
 
Can someone explain visual memo to me? How do you guys do it? It seems to have the potential to be very fast, but I have a lot of trouble memorizing more than 4 or 5 corners visually.
 
Im using the journey system right now for edges and ive gotten all edges BLD a few times, but cant seem to find anything for corners that I can work with. Im horrible at memorizing letters/numbers. Any help?
 
Just use lettering for the corners. And sound it out. Such as this memo

JSDMU

Just sound it out (memo corners last and solve them first while you still have it fresh)

I have trouble sounding stuff like that out so I just say "J S D M U" in my head. If the letters form a word then I'll say the word along with the letters. Say the memo was JUGMS. I'd sound out "JUG M S" Jug the word, then M S. Easy.
 
Im using the journey system right now for edges and ive gotten all edges BLD a few times, but cant seem to find anything for corners that I can work with. Im horrible at memorizing letters/numbers. Any help?

Many people dislike using letters/number, I would recommend you try visual for a while and see if you like it. It might take a while to get used to.
 
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Currently, I pair letters and think of a word to correspond with it. I generally just "know" when to start corners as opposed to edges. So I letter my edge stickers A-Y (skipping x, it is hard to work with) and I do the same with my corner stickers. So for RUGJNVOENBKS, I would think rug, jane, void, eastsheen, books. When executing, again I sort of just remember thant eastsheen was en not es, etc. I am really not that great so far (just got my first one beggining of winter break) but I am working on it, and this is a really easy way to begin.


3x3 Bld : 12:32.412 3x3 S:17.321(NL) A: 24.382
 
I'm still learning Old Pochmann, I have the edges down fine but I can't seem to figure out the corners. For my memo, I use "tapping" as a visual type of memo as I can't really get numbers or letters down. For memorizing corners, how exactly would I use my memory method?
 
I'm still learning Old Pochmann, I have the edges down fine but I can't seem to figure out the corners. For my memo, I use "tapping" as a visual type of memo as I can't really get numbers or letters down. For memorizing corners, how exactly would I use my memory method?
Continue what you're doing, you'll get faster.
 
Oh, I'm sure that I'll get faster, but how do I tap to memorize corners? For edges, I start with R sticker on the RU edge and go in that pattern
Just keep on tapping through the corners one at a time until you have remembered them all. See if there are patterns which make it visually easier to remember, things like targets which are on the same face, diagonal etc. How much time have you spent experimenting with letters? Depends who the person is but generally they're easier to remember.
 
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