M slice +2 Poll

[Ordway Persyn]

I wouldn't mind having them count as +2's, though whatever is easier for the people that write the regs is fine by me. Im against removing misalignment +2's, It would just make people very frustrated if they get 46º off. And I think +2 for being one move off is a fair penalty.

 

[JamesDanko]

I voted no.

What about pyraminx? What if the "middle slice" (between the tip and base of the puzzle) was off? Would it be a DNF or +2?

Same with megaminx. What if the top and bottom layers are both one away in the same direction? is it a DNF or +2?

 

[TMOY]

+2 for both, but I have yet to see it happening during a megaminx solve.

Of course I voted yes, but what I would really like is consistent rules. I can live with either every single move counting +2 or none at all, but only part of them is just weird.

 

[biscuit]

Under "slices are +2s" rules, someone tell me what the penalty is for this, and explain why.

http://i.imgur.com/v6ax7m1.jpg

DNF. The yellow face is off by a move, and the M slice is off by a move. That being said, after seeing the arguments against M +2's, I am starting to agree. I also am starting to agree with the no +2 thing as a whole...

 

[Kit Clement]

DNF. The yellow face is off by a move, and the M slice is off by a move. That being said, after seeing the arguments against M +2's, I am starting to agree. I also am starting to agree with the no +2 thing as a whole...

When you say "off by a move", what are you using as your reference point to measure how far off the faces are?

 

[CubeWizard23]

Better yet, why not have each slice measure off the center slice, so if one is 46 off its +2, if both are 46 or more off its +4

 

[biscuit]

When you say "off by a move", what are you using as your reference point to measure how far off the faces are?

Hmm... Okay. That's true.

 

[Goosly]

Better yet, why not have each slice measure off the center slice, so if one is 46 off its +2, if both are 46 or more off its +4

So M2 away from solved is +4? Maybe I didn't understand you correctly.

 

[cubernya]

Better yet, why not have each slice measure off the center slice, so if one is 46 off its +2, if both are 46 or more off its +4

Don't touch the cube. Find the optimal solution with a computer. +34 for a 17 move solution.

Where do you draw the line? Would the two moves have to be on the same axis?

 

[Ranzha]

Don't touch the cube. Find the optimal solution with a computer. +34 for a 17 move solution.

Where do you draw the line? Would the two moves have to be on the same axis?

Axial turn metric is a very real and very irregulable thing.

Dene's "Solved or not" idea has grown on me over the years. Competitors have always had a choice in how safely they stop turning and release the puzzle before stopping the timer. The fact that people "drop/throw" their puzzles and make a bee-line for the timer is simply an aspect speedsolving's culture. That does not necessarily mean it should be catered to in the Regulations.