I feel I'm way too slow...

[dillonbladez]

Turn faster and pause more. Definitely don't look ahead. Only focus on what you are solving.

:fp

against the rules, but :fp:fp:fp
Don't listen to him. Do the opposite of what he said.
Turn a bit slower so you can have smoother transitions between f2l pairs. Definitely look ahead. Once you are solving one F2L pair, look for another one.

 

[Sakarie]

To learn an algorithm, and repeat it over and over again, takes no time copmared to understanding F2L.

Don't practice anything special, just solve as much as you like. The more you "practice", the better you get.

But I do sign up on the list of people not encuraging learn more algorithms. You've easily got algorithms enough to drop down to 30, it's just the practise you need.

 

[Chapuunka]

Actually, I would advise against learning full PLL at this point. I'd work on your F2L until you're at least sub 60. If I were you I wouldn't start learning full PLL until I was at least sub 40 but that's just me. F2L is more important imo.

I strongly disagree, I learned nearly full PLL started at about 75 seconds, it dramatically reduced my times, my guess is because it helped me understand the cube a little more. And I say nearly full PLL cuz I'm still learning it lol.

Mindlessly executing algorithms helps you understand the cube? Or do you actually watch where things are moving and learn from it? Most algorithms aren't intuitive and won't help you understand anything about the cube.

OP: I definitely agree that you should practice more. But make sure it's focused practice. Don't just mindlessly solve your cube 100 times; it would be much more effective to 10 solves where you're focusing on what you're doing and what you're improving.

Also, make sure you're using some good fingertricks. Bad ones can screw over your times, so watch some faster cubers and see what their hands are doing.

 

[dillonbladez]

Actually, I would advise against learning full PLL at this point. I'd work on your F2L until you're at least sub 60. If I were you I wouldn't start learning full PLL until I was at least sub 40 but that's just me. F2L is more important imo.

I strongly disagree, I learned nearly full PLL started at about 75 seconds, it dramatically reduced my times, my guess is because it helped me understand the cube a little more. And I say nearly full PLL cuz I'm still learning it lol.

Mindlessly executing algorithms helps you understand the cube? Or do you actually watch where things are moving and learn from it? Most algorithms aren't intuitive and won't help you understand anything about the cube.

OP: I definitely agree that you should practice more. But make sure it's focused practice. Don't just mindlessly solve your cube 100 times; it would be much more effective to 10 solves where you're focusing on what you're doing and what you're improving.

Also, make sure you're using some good fingertricks. Bad ones can screw over your times, so watch some faster cubers and see what their hands are doing.

For example, do 50 Cross+f2L solves and then 50 Full solves.

 

[Chapuunka]

Actually, I would advise against learning full PLL at this point. I'd work on your F2L until you're at least sub 60. If I were you I wouldn't start learning full PLL until I was at least sub 40 but that's just me. F2L is more important imo.

I strongly disagree, I learned nearly full PLL started at about 75 seconds, it dramatically reduced my times, my guess is because it helped me understand the cube a little more. And I say nearly full PLL cuz I'm still learning it lol.

Mindlessly executing algorithms helps you understand the cube? Or do you actually watch where things are moving and learn from it? Most algorithms aren't intuitive and won't help you understand anything about the cube.

OP: I definitely agree that you should practice more. But make sure it's focused practice. Don't just mindlessly solve your cube 100 times; it would be much more effective to 10 solves where you're focusing on what you're doing and what you're improving.

Also, make sure you're using some good fingertricks. Bad ones can screw over your times, so watch some faster cubers and see what their hands are doing.

For example, do 50 Cross+f2L solves and then 50 Full solves.

But also make sure you're paying attention and learning, getting faster, not just going through the motions.

 

[cmhardw]

@ the OP

Without seeing a video of you solving, I'm pretty sure I have an idea of what might be slowing you down, but again I could be completely wrong. My guess is that when you spot an F2L corner/edge pair, and remember/figure out the alg or logic you will use to solve it, that you do those moves quickly, and while watching the pieces you are solving. Both parts are important to fix, but the last part is key.

Again, this is only if this style of solving F2L seems like what you are doing.
1) Turn the faces slower during F2L. Most advanced speedcubers talk about turning "slow" at the start of F2L, and then slowly increasing their turning rate until the last corner edge pair is done at break neck pace. Try this.

2) DO NOT look at the F2L corner/edge pair pieces you are actually solving... ever.... ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever! I mean this seriously by the way. Whenever you are solving a corner edge pair, you should be able to do so automatically without looking at the actual pieces you are solving. What you are looking for with your eyes would be a corner from another corner/edge pair (or an edge if you happen to spot that first). The way to get to the point where you can do this is to practice each and every F2L situation many many times in a row, and putting the moves you use into muscle memory.

Hopefully this helps,
Chris

 

[cincyaviation]

Don't practice anything special, just solve as much as you like.

don't do this, practice something specific, get better at it, then practice something else specific, then once you have gone through everything, put it all together.

 

[TheCubeMaster5000]

Actually, I would advise against learning full PLL at this point. I'd work on your F2L until you're at least sub 60.

At first I was like "WHAT?! Don't learn full PLL? Then I read the other sentence. I would think that you would be sub-60 by now if you know F2L.

 

[Kirjava]

Definitely don't look ahead. Only focus on what you are solving.

I did this for a long long time and can honestly say that it's a valid technique.

 

[Monarch]

I didn't use anything but a beginners method down to sub-40 averages.
Having done that, all I can say is practice a lot, your f2l I believe is what what cut your times down the most.

 

[cincyaviation]

cause its not the most time consuming part of the solve at all :rolleyes:

 

[rubiknewbie]

With a decent cube and regular techniques and practice you should be 30 sec easily. Maybe it's time to work on the fundamentals and put aside advanced stuff for now.

 

[Tim Major]

Spoiler

Turn faster and pause more. Definitely don't look ahead. Only focus on what you are solving.

:fp

Turn faster and pause more. Definitely don't look ahead. Only focus on what you are solving.

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Turn faster and pause more. Definitely don't look ahead. Only focus on what you are solving.

:fp

against the rules, but :fp:fp:fp
Don't listen to him. Do the opposite of what he said.
Turn a bit slower so you can have smoother transitions between f2l pairs. Definitely look ahead. Once you are solving one F2L pair, look for another one.

So, he averages in the 12-14 second range, and you guys average much slower (except Ben I guess, who's apparently only a bit slower) and you think your advice is more valid. It's just a different style, fast and choppy rather than slow and smooth. Both work, however, do it this way and it will start to become second nature, and you can learn lookahead then.And it's my LL that makes me average 18, my f2l is decent IMO.

 

[ribonzz]

It's typical..