How to be sub 20

[zbolmb]

That sounds logical, I think I should probably attempt to switch now before I get any faster.

 

[Torch]

Because you can consider more options for cross? Whether there is a XCross is secondary. Being CN gives you 5 more options for cross.

At slower speeds (15-25s) the main benefit of color neutrality is the extra options for cross, but where I am (12-13s) I'm realizing that XCross/better lookahead into F2L is actually an even greater benefit.

 

[1Neoisaisa]

so pretty much the less the merrier

 

[siapa]

is F2L 20s is good for sub 30 ?

 

[mafergut]

is F2L 20s is good for sub 30 ?

I assume you mean F2L including cross, then barely but, of course, it all depends on how fast your LL is. If you use 4LLL and extrapolating from the 20s F2L you will be probably over 30s total most of the time. If you use 2LLL and are decently fast at it but you just need to improve your lookahead during F2L then you can probably be consistently sub 30 (perhaps around 26s) with a 20s cross+F2L, yes.

 

[Ewch]

Thanks!very helpful

 

[Ben Wak]

I need to learn advanced 4x4 then I shall learn all of cfop

 

[Rishi Rockzz]

ur post really helped me
i have memorised 75 % of cfop but i cant even get sub 1 min .
i have been confused why that happens.
after seeing ur post i came to know where to improve

 

[CriticalCubing]

I had made this video for sub 20. Never got around sharing it

 

[mark49152]

8 second F2L is good enough for sub-17 if you actually bother to learn full OLL/PLL and practise cross.

I still don't get why people say you "don't need" full OLL to get sub-20. You don't need to be sub-20 at all - you could go do something useful instead - but if you do care about getting sub-20, it makes no sense to neglect learning alg sets that will help you greatly.

 

[Ordway Persyn]

8 second F2L is good enough for sub-17 if you actually bother to learn full OLL/PLL and practise cross.

I still don't get why people say you "don't need" full OLL to get sub-20. You don't need to be sub-20 at all - you could go do something useful instead - but if you do care about getting sub-20, it makes no sense to neglect learning alg sets that will help you greatly.

+1, most OLL algs are extremely easy to learn as well. you can get sub 20 without it but I'd recommend learning at least the easy ones.

also good vid.

 

[CriticalCubing]

8 second F2L is good enough for sub-17 if you actually bother to learn full OLL/PLL and practise cross.

I still don't get why people say you "don't need" full OLL to get sub-20. You don't need to be sub-20 at all - you could go do something useful instead - but if you do care about getting sub-20, it makes no sense to neglect learning alg sets that will help you greatly.

Because recognition. Some people have also mentioned that their recognition was bad and they couldn't execute it fast enough.
I had 12 sec cross + f2l when I was sub 20 with sub 8 last layer using 2 look oll and full PLL

 

[asacuber]

Full OLL came to my rescue when I was stuck at trying to get sub 20 for 10 months or so.

 

[Kudz]

Please Help!!!!
Ao5 is 21.86
Solves are
18.87,18.41,22.66,22.56,22.34
file:///C:/Users/user/Documents/Youcam/Capture_20160105.mp4

There are two options:
-you are nice troll,
-you really thought that it can be posted directly from your computer.

Can't decide what is funnier tho =)

 

[SiTeMaRo]

very good! I have many solves under 20, but my average is still 23-25. this helped me. thanks

 

[Boneless]

There are two options:
-you are nice troll,
-you really thought that it can be posted directly from your computer.

Can't decide what is funnier tho =)

That's not how links work m8

 

[the speedcuber]

You do need good algs and look ahead to be sub-20

 

[shadowslice e]

You do need good algs and look ahead to be sub-20

You can be sub-20 without lookahead. Mine was terrible at 20 and I use roux which is arguably more reliant on lookahead.

Also, I average ~13 and some of my algs are still pretty awful and my execution could use some work (just ask berd)

That said, it is much easier to be sub-20 when those are good but they are not absolutely necessary. If you really wanted you could probably get sub-20 with beginners.

 

[Rishi Rockzz]

thank you for your help.
1. 27.69 R' F2 D U L2 F2 U L2 U' R2 D B2 L B' D2 L2 D2 F' D' R' U
2. 34.30 F U F B2 L F' L2 B R L2 F' D2 L2 F' L2 U2 F2 D2 U
3. 22.41[BEST MARCH '16] B' L2 D2 B2 R2 F' D2 F' L2 R U' F L' B2 R2 B' U' B' R2

 

[rishirs321]

thank you for your help.
1. 27.69 R' F2 D U L2 F2 U L2 U' R2 D B2 L B' D2 L2 D2 F' D' R' U
2. 34.30 F U F B2 L F' L2 B R L2 F' D2 L2 F' L2 U2 F2 D2 U
3. 22.41[BEST MARCH '16] B' L2 D2 B2 R2 F' D2 F' L2 R U' F L' B2 R2 B' U' B' R2

Its another Rishi!
HI!