How many methods can you sub-20 with?

[irontwig]

Are we talking about single or average here?

 

[miniGOINGS]

What. How does that work, and why would anyone do it?

ಠ_ಠ

Because it's a lot of fun. And looks cool. Not to mention it's basically braindead...

 

[nathanajah]

Let's see... I can only sub 20 with ZZ and Fridrich.

 

[uberCuber]

Are we talking about single or average here?

Because of the "one of my main goals has always been to just achieve sub-20 times consistently" part of his post, I would assume he means average.

I personally have only ever done sub-20 averages with CFOP, mainly because I haven't put real work into other methods.

 

[NeedReality]

I'm sub-20 with Roux and CFOP/Fridrich. I don't practice the latter though, so I'm just barely sub-20 with it nowadays. I'm aiming for a sub-15 average with Roux and then I'll be happy - I'm not too interested in learning a ton of methods for speed.

 

[eastamazonantidote]

ZZ at mid-18, VH/ZB at high 17, and Fridrich at low 19. Yes they are very similar and all variations of Fridrich but I have a very different mindset when using each one. Fridrich is likely that high because I suck at OLL recognition from all those solves with LLEO.

And because I experiment with methods all the time I'm very close with Roux at 21.xx (once I get used to the last step I will be) and Petrus at 22.xx (once I find the 2x2x3 fast enough I will be).

 

[Tall5001]

Hey can someone explain Human Kociemba since it was brought up please!

 

[Anonymous]

ZZ at mid-18, VH/ZB at high 17, and Fridrich at low 19. Yes they are very similar and all variations of Fridrich but I have a very different mindset when using each one. Fridrich is likely that high because I suck at OLL recognition from all those solves with LLEO.

And because I experiment with methods all the time I'm very close with Roux at 21.xx (once I get used to the last step I will be) and Petrus at 22.xx (once I find the 2x2x3 fast enough I will be).

I don't think ZZ qualifies as a variation of Fridrich at all, do you?

But anyway, two: ZZ and Fridrich. 15-16.5 with ZZ, 19 with Fridrich.

 

[pistelli]

I have heard of Human Thislethwaite but not Human Kociemba. Links please? Sounds neat, but Human Thislethwaite was hard enough to understand(For me, I was able to do a couple solves but there are only two or so tutorials and they are both pretty confusing). Pseudoprogrammer on youtube did a 27 second solve with it though, so it obviously has potential.

 

[JonnyWhoopes]

CFOP, FreeFOP, Petrus (sometimes), Keyhole (singles only), Roux. I think that's about it. Some are average, and some are singles only.

 

[Erzz]

I'd like to see a multiple-choice poll for this with methods (ZZ, Fridrich, Roux, Petrus, TF, etc).
I can get sub-20 singles, but not averages for any methods. So I voted 0.

 

[StachuK1992]

CFOP, Petrus, ZZ
sub25 with Roux, Salvia, and random variants of all of the above.

 

[riffz]

Fridrich and ZZ. If you mean single then I guess you could throw in Roux as well.

 

[Yes We Can!]

CFOP, Roux and LBL (with 4LLL that is)

 

[Daniel Wu]

I've gotten sub 20 averages of 12 with CFOP, Roux, Petrus, and ZZ. Normally I average around 14 with CFOP, 18-19 with Roux, 21 with Petrus, and also 21 with ZZ.

 

[Vinny]

Just CFOP... I'm working on Roux though, average mid 30s with that and 17's to 19's with CFOP.

 

[waffle=ijm]

Roux, CFOP, Petrus.

 

[Nestor]

Occasionally I do sub20" solves with CFOP (1 out of 15 or so). The best I've done with Petrus is 26".

 

[uberCuber]

I posted earlier that CFOP is the only method that I can do sub-20 averages with, but since I am seeing people also list methods that they can just get sub-20 singles with, here are my other sub-20 single methods:

Petrus
ZZ
LBL with 4LLL
VH
Roux