Fridrich 3x3: OLL cross first?

[Rpotts]

Are there really that many people denying this? you do not need to have any edges oriented to do OLL.

seriously people?

This is a worthless post.

 

[Narraeson]

Lemme just straighten this out.
If you're doing 2-look, then yes, the cross is supposed to be up there first.
If you're doing 1-look and have all of the algorithms memorized, then no.
Obviously, people learn 2-look first. Sane people anyway.

 

[Daniel Wu]

If you're doing 2-look, then yes, the cross is supposed to be up there first.

2 look with EO followed by CO anyway (the most common way).

 

[Kirjava]

Lemme just straighten this out.
If you're doing 2-look, then yes, the cross is supposed to be up there first.

LL Scramble #2498: R B' R' F R2 B R F' U' F U R U' F' U'

FIRST LOOK; RUR'URU2R'

ZOMG THE CROSS ISNT DONE

SECOND LOOK; U'rUR'URU2r'

 

[Sa967St]

newfags can't CO EO

I lol'd.

2LOLL isn't just OELL then OCLL ...

 

[uberCuber]

damn Kirjava beat me to it i was just going to do that..

seriously, orienting edges and then orienting corners is not the only way to 2-look OLL..

 

[Andrew Ricci]

LL Scramble #2498: R B' R' F R2 B R F' U' F U R U' F' U'

FIRST LOOK; RUR'URU2R'

ZOMG THE CROSS ISNT DONE

SECOND LOOK; U'rUR'URU2r'

Well, I think Bruno then Adj Edge orientation would be a better example for this case.

 

[Kirjava]

Why?

 

[uberCuber]

Well, I think Bruno then Adj Edge orientation would be a better example for this case.

how is that? Kirjava's is perfectly fine, and I think actually gets the point across better than a CO + EO would.

 

[Andrew Ricci]

Why?

Corners then edges is less confusing. Or at least, I think.

 

[uberCuber]

Corners then edges is less confusing. Or at least, I think.

I think you are missing the point

 

[Kirjava]

since when were sunes confusing?

 

[Andrew Ricci]

since when were sunes confusing?

Nevermind. I didn't realize the second one was a fat sune.

 

[Narraeson]

LL Scramble #2498: R B' R' F R2 B R F' U' F U R U' F' U'

FIRST LOOK; RUR'URU2R'

ZOMG THE CROSS ISNT DONE

SECOND LOOK; U'rUR'URU2r'

Why would you do Sune (at least what I memorized as Sune, I don't care about names) on a line when you're doing 2look? That's kinda stupid... You'd do yFRUR'U'F', then RU2R'U'RUR'U'RU'R'. Derp.

 

[Andrew Ricci]

Why would you do Sune (at least what I memorized as Sune, I don't care about names) on a line when you're doing 2look? That's kinda stupid... You'd do yFRUR'U'F', then RU2R'U'RUR'U'RU'R'. Derp.

He's just proving that EO/CO is not the only way.

 

[Kirjava]

Why would you do Sune (at least what I memorized as Sune, I don't care about names) on a line when you're doing 2look?

Because that's the solution with the 2look system that you're using?

That's kinda stupid...

I'd say that it's less stupid than doing EO first. Being ignorant is stupid

You'd do yFRUR'U'F', then RU2R'U'RUR'U'RU'R'. Derp.

That's slower. You herped when you should have derped.

 

[Narraeson]

I'm just saying. Why turn one alg into two?

 

[Stefan]

And nobody notices Thom's mistake?

 

[Kirjava]

And nobody notices Thom's mistake?

I forgot a U' before the first sune >_<

I'm just saying. Why turn one alg into two?

I have no idea what you're saying. This is two look OLL. Two looks, two algs.

 

[Stefan]

Oh wow, yeah, that also works. I thought the U' setup for the second step should be U.