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scramble: U' F2 U F2 L2 B2 F2 D' U B' D' R B2 L2 D' F2 D B2 L

L U' R2 // 2x2x2
U B U' D2 B2 // 2x2x3
B' L' B // F2L - 1
D' B' U' L' U L2 B L' D F' D F @ D' // to L3C
@ = [F', D B D']

Final solution: L U' R2 U B U' D2 B L' B D' B' U' L' U L2 B L' D F' D2 B D' F D B' D2 (27)

edit:
L U' R2 // 2x2x2
U B U' D2 B2 // 2x2x3
B' L' B // F2L - 1
D' (D') // shift
(L2 B' L' B) // square + form F2L pair
(L' B' U2 F U' B' U F' U2 B2) // WV to LL skip

Final solution: L U' R2 U B U' D2 B L' B D' B2 U2 F U' B U F' U2 B L B' L B L2 D (26)
 
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really weird solution (even for me) for Weekly FMC
Scramble: B2 D' F L2 U' B R' L2 U D R2 L2 D R2 L' U2 L' B F2 R'

B' (R' D F) // EO
(R2 U' R') // 2 squares
R2 U2 F2 // 2x2x3
(D' L D) // all but 6 pieces

B' R2 # U2 F2 D' L' D R @ U R2 F' D' R

@ = R' D R D2 L' R' D R D' L D2 // 2c2e ZBLL alg to leave 3 edges
# = [R2, S'] // edge cycle

Final solution: B2 F D2 F' B U2 F2 D' L' D2 R D2 R' L' D R D' L D2 U R2 F' D' R (24)


btw my Weekly FMC avg12 is at 24.90 now
28, 23, 25, 24, 26, 24, 26, 25, 23, 25, 27, 24
 
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scramble: U' F2 U F2 L2 B2 F2 D' U B' D' R B2 L2 D' F2 D B2 L

L U' R2 //2x2x2
U B D2 U' B2 //2x2x3
L2 F' D F L' D2 L2 //F2L-1

So I found this nice start and ended up with a 39 move solution (random last slots, short OLL, U perm with cancellations).

Anyone sees something promising?

L U' R2 U B D2 U' B2 L2 F' D F L' D2 B D B' D' L' D2 L' D' (22)

lolcale

L U' R2 //2x2x2
U B D2 U' B2 //2x2x3
L2 F' D F L' D2 L2 //F2L-1
L // Pseudo F2L
L B D B' D' L' D2 //LL
L' D' //Undo Pseudo
 
You can get to last 4 corners like this: L D2 L' D' L' F L F' (notice the first move cancels with your part of the solution). Insertion finder says you can get 29 moves with that.

However, I also noticed that you could solve the same F2L-1 in fewer moves like this:
L U' R2//2x2x2
L2 D' B' D' B2//2x2x3
B D' B' L D2 L//F2L-1

and continue to L4C with:
L D L' D F' D F D//L4C

which saves two moves over the other solution. Always look for different ways to put together the same blocks!

Thanks a lot! I was so stuck with the idea of inserting the last F2L pair while somehow solving the edges that I didn't think of just solving an LL block and inserting a lonely edge instead of a pair. I will think of this in future attempts.

L U' R2 // 2x2x2
U B U' D2 B2 // 2x2x3
B' L' B // F2L - 1
D' B' U' L' U L2 B L' D F' D F @ D' // to L3C
@ = [F', D B D']

Final solution: L U' R2 U B U' D2 B L' B D' B' U' L' U L2 B L' D F' D2 B D' F D B' D2 (27)

edit:
L U' R2 // 2x2x2
U B U' D2 B2 // 2x2x3
B' L' B // F2L - 1
D' (D') // shift
(L2 B' L' B) // square + form F2L pair
(L' B' U2 F U' B' U F' U2 B2) // WV to LL skip

Final solution: L U' R2 U B U' D2 B L' B D' B2 U2 F U' B U F' U2 B L B' L B L2 D (26)

L3C in your first solve is difficult for me to follow and NISS is still obscure to me and I don't know WV algs. I guess from this I just take a reminder to really examine all possibilities to extend the blocks because I probably had a white bias.

L U' R2 U B D2 U' B2 L2 F' D F L' D2 B D B' D' L' D2 L' D' (22)

L U' R2 //2x2x2
U B D2 U' B2 //2x2x3
L2 F' D F L' D2 L2 //F2L-1
L // Pseudo F2L
L B D B' D' L' D2 //LL
L' D' //Undo Pseudo

Proud that the best solution uses exactly my way of blockbuilding. :D
I think this is the most lucky solver I've ever encountered.
And it helps me to understand pseudo stuff.
 
found a 23 for the Weekly FMC using my 24 start
B' (R' D F) // EO
(R2 U' R') // two squares
R2 U2 F2 // 2x2x3 + EO + blocks
D' L' D2 L' D' (D L') // to G perm (or 3c3e)

B' R2 U2 F2 @ D' L' D2 L' D' L D' R U R2 F' D' R
@ = [S', D2] // edge cycle

B' R2 U2 F' B' L2 B % F' D L' D2 L' D' L D' R U R2 F' D' R
% = [B' L2 B, R2] // corner cycle

Final solution: B' R2 U2 F' R2 B' L2 B R2 F' D L' D2 L' D' L D' R U R2 F' D' R (23)
 
Hey everyone, this is the FMC scramble from Hessen Open:
R' U' F L2 F D2 B' L2 B' L2 B' D2 U2 R' U2 L2 F2 U' R' B' D F' L' U' R' U' F
inverse:
F' U R U L F D' B R U F2 L2 U2 R U2 D2 B L2 B L2 B D2 F' L2 F' U R

And a very promising start:
R2 B' U L (extra move in the totally obvious 2x2x2: R2 U L)
switch:
R' B' U' R2 - F2L-1 in 8 Moves, if you switch again you get a free pair

My Solution was:
another switch:
R U' B U' B' U' for 5 Corners in 14 moves (sadly just 5 moves cancellation)
-> 25 move solution. I know Jan found another 25 with this start, but is anyone able to find a better solution?

Also a funny start:
R2 B' U L U R2 U B R - F2L-1 in 9 Moves + freepair

Would be nice if you guys try it!
 
Coming back from the Swedish Decathlon Challenge got me thinking that it might be a good idea to get some earmuffs or whatnot. This is because that especially during the first attempt there was a bunch of pretty loud kids in the same room, as well as organizational staff chit-chatting behind the competitors. Of course I don't know for sure if I would do any better with the same scramble with no distractions whatsoever, but why have more distractions than necessary. I do know that a bunch of BLDers use some sort of ear protection to block out sound, but does any decent FMCers use them too?
 
Hey everyone, this is the FMC scramble from Hessen Open:
R' U' F L2 F D2 B' L2 B' L2 B' D2 U2 R' U2 L2 F2 U' R' B' D F' L' U' R' U' F
inverse:
F' U R U L F D' B R U F2 L2 U2 R U2 D2 B L2 B L2 B D2 F' L2 F' U R

And a very promising start:
R2 B' U L (extra move in the totally obvious 2x2x2: R2 U L)
switch:
R' B' U' R2 - F2L-1 in 8 Moves, if you switch again you get a free pair


Also a funny start:
R2 B' U L U R2 U B R - F2L-1 in 9 Moves + freepair

Would be nice if you guys try it!

using your second start:

R2 B' U L U R2 U B R // F2L - 1
F' L F @ U' L' U2 L' U2 L // VLS to U perm
@ = [S, U2]

Final solution: R2 B' U L U R2 U B R F' L B L2 B' F U L' U2 L' U2 L (21)
 
25 for Weekly FMC
Scramble:
U F' L' R2 B' D2 U2 B R2 F' L B' D' R F B D' F' B U

(L2) B2 L' B2 // square
U L2 // 2x2x2
D' R' (D2) // xxcross + corner
B L U B U' L' // insert edge + EO
F2 B' U' B' U B2 F2 // multislot to L3C

skeleton: B2 L' B2 U L2 D' @ R' B L U B U' L' F2 B' U' B' U B2 F2 D2 L2
@ = [D L D', R']

Final solution: B2 L' B2 U L' D' R' D L' D' B L U B U' L' F2 B' U' B' U B2 F2 D2 L2 (25)
avg12 is 24.70 now
23, 25, 24, 26, 24, 26, 25, 23, 25, 27, 24, 25
 
24.7, is that UWR? Pretty damn good either way. I had problems with that scramble (encountered parity all the time), so I had to do a 2C2E insertion to not DNF. By the way, perhaps we shouldn't call both the Berkeley FMC and the forum competition "The weekly"?
 
Hey everyone, this is the FMC scramble from Hessen Open:
R' U' F L2 F D2 B' L2 B' L2 B' D2 U2 R' U2 L2 F2 U' R' B' D F' L' U' R' U' F
inverse:
F' U R U L F D' B R U F2 L2 U2 R U2 D2 B L2 B L2 B D2 F' L2 F' U R
Would be nice if you guys try it!

R2 U L // 222
(F R F' R' B') // 223
(U R2 U') // F2L-1
(R2 F R2 F' R2 F R F' * R2) // L3C

* F D F' U F D' F' U'

Solution // R2 U L R2 U F D F' U' F D' R' F' R2 F R2 F' R2 U R2 U' B R F R' F' - 26

That's a nice scamble but I stopped after 25 minutes since it's already a bit late.
 
A 29 move FMC solution with edges first (kinda):
U' R' F R2 F R' B R F' L B2 D2 R U2 D2 L F2 D2 L D2


F // 2x1x1
R * B L2 U // Xcross
F’ R F R’ F’ R F R’// edges (to 6c)
NB: I could have done R F' R' F to solve edges, but this 8 moves solved an extra corner rather than the 4 moves to 7c.
YGR->YBR->GOW

*R U’ R’ D2 R U R’ D2(1 cancelled)

F R2 U’ R’ D2 R U R’ D2 B L2 U @ F’ £ R F R’ F’ R F R’ (20)

WBO->RWG->YBO

@ U L U’ R’ U L’ U’ R (1 cancelled)
£ F U B U’ F’ U B’ U’ (3 cancelled)

F R2 U’ R’ D2 R U R’ D2 B & L2 U2 B U’ F’ U B’ U’ R F R’ F’ R F R’ (24)

WGR->OYB->WGO
& U’ R’ U L2 U’ R U L2(3 cancelled)

F R2 U’ R’ D2 R U R’ D2 B U’ R’ U L2 U’ R U’ B U’ F’ U B’ U’ R F R’ F’ R F R’ (29 moves)
 
I had this skeleton for the weekly comp. Didn't use it because a 3C3E in 16 was probably better.
I wanted to check it on IF, but apparently it can't do 4 insertions.

Does "if the number of insertions is more than 4" actually mean "if the number of insertions is 4 or more"?

scramble: D' R2 B2 D2 L2 B2 D L2 B2 D' U2 B' R2 F L' U' F2 L' F U2

L' U
F L2 D2 F D2 F2
D' L D' //2 flipped edges+4c (11)

Shortest (usable) skeleton I've had.
 
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