Cheating is cheating and I totally agree with you.He should not be given any extra attempt. If he cheated his way to the 13, he obviously doesn't deserve anything but a ban, but I understand how it puts the WCA board in an awkward place without concrete evidence.
The judge was Justin Jaffray's mom, and the time happened, but it's assuredly his set up scramble.
Frankly even though they can't prove it, we all know it happened and the WCA is under no obligation to prove anything beyond all doubts. I would very not like to see his blatant cheating at a competition again (Read: Ban.)
Also, Christopher Phillips' 30 move FMC is borderline impossible, too.
Of note, it would have been super easy to cheat in either of those two situations. For FMC the judge was wandering around and not paying attention for a time and in 3x3 it was chaotic and people weren't called, they just randomly brought up their cubes, so it would have been extraordinarily easy for Shane to bring up a fake scramble and have a judge pick it up as a scramble.
Dave had me judge Shane's last three solves so that I could account for the rest of his speed, and I can. If I gave Shane a thousand solves he might never get a sub 20. A 13 is impossible.
Also, given his previous reputation it just seems so blatantly obvious what really happened that I don't see the point in ignoring who he has been in the past. This went from him being an annoyance to being a real problem.
[19:54] <Kian> but like at what point does that end?I'm assuming it'll stay the way it is considering there's no way to prove that he didn't get that solve.
*If he cheated.I hope he gets a suitable punishment.
Yes, you're right, but then again if he put his cube down with the "classic Shane" scramble, then surely he would notice when he got that scramble under the cube cover. If I get the same scramble twice by accident, I say something, should he not have done the same? I agree it could be a scrambling error though, but it would have to have been a pretty great scramble for him to have got a time so much faster than his average.*If he cheated.I hope he gets a suitable punishment.
Don't forget that he might be innocent in all this. He may have handed in a scrambled cube, but not with the intention of receiving that scramble. He may have been given a cube that was scrambled incorrectly, and is thus the scrambler's fault, technically.
Let us be careful where we place the blame.
(Note: I personally think that he cheated and should be punished appropriately).
Perhaps judges should have a sign in sheet with their initials that way, the WCA delegates know who each judge is according to name and initials. (I say this because some people initials are impossible to match to a name)
anyway, off the topic of Shane, is there any way we can see the scrambles? I'm only really interested in the FMC scramble (can anyone confirm if that was supposed to be an optimal scramble? I wouldn't see any other reason for a 19 move scramble) and the pyraminx scrambles.
I am pretty sure the Fewest Moves scramble was:I did not try to reduce the length of the FMC scramble. It came out at 19 moves with touching the green |> to reduce its length. 19 was probably not the optimal length.
lol at my 2x2 results. 14.xx was pretty much all lockups, and I even slammed the cube down on the table and restarted the solve, it was maddening (lol) 9 was just plain bad and the 6's were normal.Good job to nlcuber for proving to the world that he is capable of a sub-30 solve (and sub-20, too!). And you're almost sub-10 at 2x2, too! I guess these results aren't too good considering you seem to claim 13.xx 3x3 averages and sub-5 2x2 averages.
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