[Help Thread] Algorithm Memorization Discussion

[PenguinsDontFly]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fP124ioqzCM

 

[Wylie28]

i put algs on index cards, a drawing of the case on front and the actual alg on back, then shuffle them and go through the deck. I look at the case and flip the card over so i only see the alg then i repeat the alg until i see the case then i stop, flip the card back over so i can verify that it is indeed the case, and then repeat the alg without looking at it. This seems to very quickly embed algs into my muscle memory help me train my recogition and help me learn to execute them fast. I havent found a better way to learn algs yet

 

[DJAlex]

This is my method. It works pretty well.
1: start with a solved cube
2: do the algorithm 20 times while looking at the algorithm
3: continue doing The algorithm until the cube is solved.
4: try to do the algorithm without looking at it. If you cannot start over from step one. If you can, proceed to step five
5: do the algorithm about 5 more times without looking at the alg. If you can't, do it while looking at it once. If you can, proceed to step 6
6: do something non-cubing related like watching TV or playing basketball something else for five minutes.
7: try to do the algorithm again without looking at it. If you can, proceed. If not, do it while looking at it once and then start from step 6
8: Do something non-cubing related for half an hour, then try to do the algorithm
9: wait until the next day. If you can do the algorithm when you wake up and you can recognize it, then good job! Now just try getting faster at the algorithm. I recommend trying to learn two at a time

Looks like a great routine I'm learning full PLL and this should give me the structure I need to get this done. Thanks

 

[ChaozCubing]

Looks like a great routine I'm learning full PLL and this should give me the structure I need to get this done. Thanks

GGlad I could help

 

[transatlantic]

What are some good ways to learn full OLL?

First of all sorry if this is a duplicate thread or if it belongs somewhere else, but i never get a lot help when my post ends up or the 200 page. Anyway, Im not a fast cuber yet, and I don't think I will ever compete. For now I just want to know an alg for every case. I have all PLL except for a couple G perms. Now Ive started learning OLL algs, but i find them harder to recognize and remember than PLL. Oh and I have all the 2 look OLLs down well. My question is what kind of method you guys use to learn OLLs easier? And also if there are better OLLs to learn first because I know some have different probabilities than others, but for most of them they have an equal probability, Thanks!

 

[michaelcmelton]

Memorizing Full OLL

I know 14/21 PLL algs, and in preparation for US Nationals I want to start on Full OLL. I know that the general consensus among the community is to learn full PLL first, but I kinda want to attack them together. Is this recommended? If so, is there, for lack of better terminology, an "efficient" way to memorize, recognize, and execute the OLLs aside from pounding them into muscle memory submission?

I average between 30 and 40 seconds with occasional delve into the upper to mid 20s, and am consistently improving my lookahead on a daily basis with an hour of practice with a metronome. My F2L times have decreased drastically due to this and want to keep up my consistent improvement.

Any help would be appreciated guys.

Michael

 

[TDM]

I know 14/21 PLL algs, and in preparation for US Nationals I want to start on Full OLL. I know that the general consensus among the community is to learn full PLL first, but I kinda want to attack them together. Is this recommended? If so, is there, for lack of better terminology, an "efficient" way to memorize, recognize, and execute the OLLs aside from pounding them into muscle memory submission?

I average between 30 and 40 seconds with occasional delve into the upper to mid 20s, and am consistently improving my lookahead on a daily basis with an hour of practice with a metronome. My F2L times have decreased drastically due to this and want to keep up my consistent improvement.

Any help would be appreciated guys.

Michael

I think it'd be best to finish learning full PLL first. PLL will save you much more time than OLL will. But if you really want to start learning OLL, then look for the easiest cases first. That way you can learn a lot of algs without much effort.

 

[DJAlex]

Badmephisto has a good guide to OLL which separates them into triggers

 

[Berd]

I think it'd be best to finish learning full PLL first. PLL will save you much more time than OLL will. But if you really want to start learning OLL, then look for the easiest cases first. That way you can learn a lot of algs without much effort.

Cubing world has a couple of videos on easy OLL cases.

 

[Repsela]

How to learn OLL?

Hi! What is the best order of Oll for start to learn them? If I don't mistake some Oll have much more probabilities than others...

 

[Randomno]

Learn short ones, learn easy to recognise ones (no point learning a bunch of 8 movers if it take 5 secs to recognise), learn the annoying ones.

 

[stoic]

I don't know about probabilities but Badmephisto has a pretty good breakdown here

 

[CubeCow]

Do it in the light, do it in the dark, do it with your eyes closed, do it while saying the annotation, and repeat. It will enter your long term memory. A good teacher of mine once said memorizing it like pounding a peg into the ground, every time you think/say/do it it pushes it a little deeper.

 

[Berd]

Do it in the light, do it in the dark, do it with your eyes closed, do it while saying the annotation, and repeat. It will enter your long term memory. A good teacher of mine once said memorizing it like pounding a peg into the ground, every time you think/say/do it it pushes it a little deeper.

Don't do this ^^^^

Track pieces and see how they move around during the alg.

 

[CubeCow]

How the heck to learn 2L oll and pll

I don't need a tutorial, I need to now how to learn the freaking algs because they're so hard and I only get less then 1 hour a day to actually practice hard (My parents say too much of anything screws you up)

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Repeat the algs over and over for like 5 minutes each, then learn the recognition, then try to do it without looking at the alg, then move one. Also, look for patterns in different algs

 

[King Mike]

Repeat the algs over and over for like 5 minutes each, then learn the recognition, then try to do it without looking at the alg, then move one. Also, look for patterns in different algs

What PenguinsDontFly just said is exactly correct.
Doing this I learnt all 21 PLL algorithms in a day.

Not to scare you CubeCow, but learning full OLL and PLL is way harder.
Good thing, is that after knowing 2 Look, you will need to know only like 61 total algorithms instead of the full 76 of OLL and PLL.
(My 2 Look OLL and PLL had 15 algs BTW)

Good luck on the algs!

 

[CubeCow]

Thx.

 

[MattyAB]

Techniques for learning algs

Hey Everyone,

I just got into cubing, and can solve a cube using the beginner's method, but i a having difficulty learning CFOP. I want to know how to speedcube and would use Fridrich method, but I am having trouble learning all the algorithmss. I use this page and practice ~1hr a day and have been doing for about 4 days - the algorithms just don't stick in! What is everyone's recommended way of learning algs?

Thanks!

P.S. i have a DaYan ZhanChi, the greatest cube ever (that I have tried, but that's not saying much, as i have only ever used my ZhanChi and my official Rubik's cube that is very slow.)

 

[2180161]

I would drill the algs, until you have it memorized by muscle memory, then work on memorizing the actual algorithm.
i.e: Sexy: R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' Do that over and over and over until you have it memorized by muscle memory. Then say to your self the algorithm over and over until it sticks. That's what I do anyway...