[Help Thread] Algorithm Memorization Discussion

[Rocky0701]

http://i.imgur.com/AsNEM0n.png

Lol, now he has got one down. Also, take the time now to find good algs that you will want to use forever. Don't just pick the easy one to learn because it will be tougher to switch to a fast one later.

 

[Alphalpha]

Do just the PLL algorithm over and over for about 5 minutes straight looking at it. After that, try to do the algorithm without looking. Then wait about a day or so and try to do the algorithm again. If you can do it, try to time it and see how fast you can do it.

This.

Do it over and over looking at the alg until you can do it without looking. If you have multiple cubes. Set up each cube, then solve each cube. Shouldn't take too long. Anywhere from 5 mins to a half-day.

 

[lerenard]

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?51106-How-to-Learn-an-Algorithm-Set

 

[JasonDL13]

This is how I prefer to do it:

1. Do the alg
2. If you can do it without looking, go to step 3, if you cannot, go back to step 1.
3. Done!

 

[dan41]

Lately i have been trying to learn full pll and i need help memerizing algs. If you have any suggestions please comment them to help me and thank you in advanced.

golden rule for me: I chose algos that don't look too much like each other, that helped tremendously.

Then learn 1 to 3 per ~25-50 solves at a time so they sink in and don't skim on recognition. Always practice the mirrored version when there is one.

3rd rule, break algos in groups of 4-5 turns separated by what you feel is best to remember. But the so called 'triggers' are quite natural; pay attention to extra parenthesis ( ) notations in algos, that can help.


PLL I learned, in order:

The basics to solve PLL: A perm for corners. U perm for edges.
A perm: R' F R' B2 R F' R' B2 R2
(or its mirror)
My chosen U perm is very short and distinct: L2 U S' L2 S U L2 (start with left hand thumb on top).
(or its mirror)

Then I quickly needed to learn H and Z perm. H was the first contact with M moves with ring fingers. H and Z are good pals, and that finishes your edge-only PLL cases. Satisfying; you will never do 2 U perm again per cube!
H perm: M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2
Z perm: M2 U M E2 M E2 U'M2


Because I already did the cube for 30 years (with the A and U alone!) I wanted to try blind solve. So came naturally the T perm and Y perm. T is the 1st long PLL that can be confusing:
(RUR'U') R'F R2 U'R'U' --- RUR'F'
but it flows very well (the most popular one at least).


The popular Y perm was simply not nice to me!
But I found this alternate algo NOT LISTED ON THE WIKI:
R2 U' R2 U' R2 U R2 D' R2 U R2 U' R2 D R2
See when I mean very distinct visually and at the touch... This was what I needed to keep faith in learning full PLL.


Then I got the J perm bonus: if you know T perm, you know J perm! The last 4 moves of the T perm are done first!
RUR'F' --- (RUR'U') R'F R2 U'R'U'



I felt I needed the L perm (the other J perm) to my arsenal, because I saw this lovely L perm (a.k.a. sexy J perm)
(R' U2 R U R' z) R2 U R' D R U' z'
you need to see this on youtube to understand the gift:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oUmz-gFU_w


Crawling through the PLL and youtube, I saw a long but very visual E perm:
RB'R'F RBR'F' RBR'F RB'R'F'


Then I took a break. Everyday I did that lot 6-8 times to build muscle memory.

With my brain poured into my hands, I had space to attack the somewhat harder PLLs.

By pure luck from a youtube comment, I found that the F perm is just R'U'F' TpermwithoutlastFprime U R !!!
R'U'F' --- (RUR'U') R'F R2 U'R'U' RUR'__ --- U R
One more free PLL!


Onto N perms: those were once more the visual ones I needed, added to the fact that it is just a repetition:
(R'UL' U2 RU'L)*2 U
(or its mirror)
You can do them without regrip if you start thumb on top and bottom.


R perms: those are special to me because one hand works a bit more than the other, and it builds a different muscle memory hard to mixup with other algos.
L U2 L'U2 L F'L'U'L U - L F L2 U
(or its mirror)


Then the eVil V perm: that one didn't felt good, but the z rotation and regrips made it unique.
z D'R2 D R2 U - R'D'R U' - R U R'D R U' z'



And now, I will disappoint you: I didn't learn the last 4 G perms.
I recognize them well enough already and I can do an A perm followed by the proper U perm without looking. This is not efficient, but I can claim I do 1 look PLL, even if I do 2 algos.

Hope this helps!

 

[ChaozCubing]

This is my method. It works pretty well.
1: start with a solved cube
2: do the algorithm 20 times while looking at the algorithm
3: continue doing The algorithm until the cube is solved.
4: try to do the algorithm without looking at it. If you cannot start over from step one. If you can, proceed to step five
5: do the algorithm about 5 more times without looking at the alg. If you can't, do it while looking at it once. If you can, proceed to step 6
6: do something non-cubing related like watching TV or playing basketball something else for five minutes.
7: try to do the algorithm again without looking at it. If you can, proceed. If not, do it while looking at it once and then start from step 6
8: Do something non-cubing related for half an hour, then try to do the algorithm
9: wait until the next day. If you can do the algorithm when you wake up and you can recognize it, then good job! Now just try getting faster at the algorithm. I recommend trying to learn two at a time

 

[babu2014]

how do i memorize algorithms

Hello! I am currently trying to learn full pll and average sub 50. But how do i memorize algorithms?! I tried making a notebook (70 pages) with algorithms for school use and stuff.

 

[cashis]

Do it over and over. After about 50 times your hands will get used to it, and eventually you'll just have it in muscle memory

 

[babu2014]

Do it over and over. After about 50 times your hands will get used to it, and eventually you'll just have it in muscle memory

Thanks, im trying to memorize some of my algorithms and its taking me FOREVER

 

[tx789]

Thanks, im trying to memorize some of my algorithms and its taking me FOREVER

They will take a while at first but should get quicker to learn. Also don't learn them too quickly just one or two a day.

 

[cashis]

Definitely don't rush it. PLL took me about 2 weeks to get. Just be patient.

 

[samuelqwe]

Definitely don't rush it. PLL took me about 2 weeks to get. Just be patient.

It took me 2 months. I was doing like, 5 a week.

 

[Seanliu]

It took me 2 months. I was doing like, 5 a week.

Lol. I was lazy and took me 6 months for PLL. But the actual time spent would be less than 7 hours. Basically I could have gotten them down in a week. Now my goal is to get the OLL's down before sub 15.

 

[Sauce]

Hello! I am currently trying to learn full pll and average sub 50. But how do i memorize algorithms?! I tried making a notebook (70 pages) with algorithms for school use and stuff.

Do it over and over. Try breaking the algorithms up. Memorize one part and than memorize another one. Write it down for these steps. Also pay attention to each move you do. I know myself that I am not the best at memorizing algorithms.

 

[Bun Naniel]

Remembering Algorithms

I am currently learning full PLL for CFOP. Any tips for memorization? I have learned about 15 already just fyi. Thanks in advance

 

[4Chan]

Despite any tips that anyone gives you on memorization, the most important part is just putting in the work and time.

Just have a nice large block of time dedicated to memorizing algs each day, and you'll have them down before you know it.

 

[Bun Naniel]

Ok Thanks for the reply

 

[szalejot]

1. Repeat ALGs
2. Repeat ALGs
3. Do some other stuff
4. Repeat ALGs

Now seriously: What helped me to learn new algs (when I was learning full OLL) was to repeat new algs before going to sleep and shortly after waking up.
Also if I caught myself during solve that I have had problems to recover alg from memory I did that alg about 20 times after that solve.

 

[ChaozCubing]

Algorithm Memorization

How do YOU memorize algorithms? Post what works for you on this thread! I want to learn, CLL, EG-1, EG-2, TCLL+, and TCLL- for 2x2, and Full OLL and PLL for 3x3, as well as the last 2 edges algorithms for 5x5x5

 

[cashis]

just do em until they're in muscle memory. I hope you realize thats nearly 1000 algorithms, and that could take years. But have at it. And alg a day keeps the nubs away!