[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[CheesecakeCuber]

i actually don't even know how to solve anything larger than a 3x3.

I'm pretty much the same. Never learned 4x4 parity algs so I can't solve unless I'm lucky with no parity.

 

[GuRoux]

I'm pretty much the same. Never learned 4x4 parity algs so I can't solve unless I'm lucky with no parity.

same with you except i don't have a 4x4 or anything bigger. Not really motivated to work on big cubes, especially when roux doesn't work well there.

 

[Shah]

I'm pretty much the same. Never learned 4x4 parity algs so I can't solve unless I'm lucky with no parity.

M slices can be done easily in a 4x4. So, Using Roux on a 4x4 won't be a problem. But, 5x5 or larger cubes, It's next to impossible. I use, CFOP with 4LLL on 5x5.

 

[GuRoux]

M slices can be done easily in a 4x4. So, Using Roux on a 4x4 won't be a problem. But, 5x5 or larger cubes, It's next to impossible. I use, CFOP with 4LLL on 5x5.

do you use roux for 4x4?

 

[DeeDubb]

do you use roux for 4x4?

I am right now, my 4x4 sucks, but I can still do mid slices. I'm thinking when I get an Moyu, It'll be even easier.

 

[GuRoux]

I am right now, my 4x4 sucks, but I can still do mid slices. I'm thinking when I get an Moyu, It'll be even easier.

hmm, maybe i'll give 4x4 a try some time later then.

 

[DeeDubb]

hmm, maybe i'll give 4x4 a try some time later then.

I think there's only two parity algorithms you need to know to solve it. One is really easy, the other is annoying.

 

[Shah]

do you use roux for 4x4?

Yes. You should try it.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

Have any of you guys actually tried push/pull M U technique on a 4x4? Uhhhh, it's kind of a nightmare

 

[waffle=ijm]

Only pull. I can't find a comfortable position for push.

 

[rybaby]

I did a Roux first block average of 25. For the whole solve, I average around 20. Should I work on my first block more or focus on other things?
Average: 3.73 (σ = 0.81)
Mean: 3.77
Time List:
1. 4.85
2. 5.38
3. 4.30
4. 2.87
5. 3.50
6. 5.28
7. 3.43
8. 2.98
9. 0.54
10. 3.64
11. 3.27
12. 3.66
13. 4.06
14. 7.21
15. 3.81
16. 3.02
17. 3.30
18. 2.71
19. 3.47
20. 2.75
21. 3.23
22. 5.03
23. 5.75
24. 3.70
25. 2.41


I also did a L10P ao25. I allowed myself about 5 seconds inspection, so maybe that's cheating.
Average: 8.64 (σ = 1.32)
Mean: 8.64

Time List:
1. 5.64 D' B2 D2 R2 D R2 U2 B2 U' L2 U' B F' R' B' F R2 U' x2
2. 9.08 F L2 B' L2 F' D2 B' D2 L B L R' U' L' U B x'
3. 8.67 U2 L2 U' R2 D L2 D L2 B D B2 D' R' B U B2 R x2
4. 7.94 L2 D' R2 F2 L2 F2 U' F' L F L R' D L' D R2 U2 x'
5. 10.23 D' L2 F2 L2 U' R2 U R2 D2 F R F' L B2 R U R' U L2 x
6. 10.83 F D F' L2 F2 R2 U R' F U2 L F2 L' F2 U2 L x
7. 7.95 L D B D' B' R' U R' U' L U2 L F2 R' F2 x
8. 12.23 R2 B' U2 L F2 U' F2 L' B L2 F' R2 F' D2 F L2 U2 B'
9. 9.17 L2 F2 L2 U' L2 U R2 D R2 U' F2 L F U' B' U B F' L
10. 4.66 U L2 R2 D R D' L' F' L' R F' U F U2
11. 8.40 R' L F R' D2 B2 U' L' U B2 D2 L D2 L B2 L' D2 x2
12. 8.80 L U2 R2 U2 R2 F2 U2 L' B2 U2 R2 U' R2 B R' B R2 U' R2
13. 7.35 U2 R2 U' R2 U R2 U' L R' F L' B' R2 B R U
14. 8.45 D' L2 R2 U B2 D L U2 L' D' L U2 R' U2 x
15. 12.70 F2 R2 B2 D R2 B2 D R2 U' L2 D R' F' R' F' D' R F' L' D2 x'
16. 8.76 F2 D B2 F2 R2 U F2 R2 B2 R2 F' L' F L2 D B L B' R2
17. 10.41 U' R B2 L' D B D' B' D' L2 D2 L' B2 R F2 L2 x2
18. 9.78 L2 F2 R' B2 R' U' L F U' F' R D2 R2 x
19. 9.02 R2 U F' U B' R' B U' F U' L2 D B2 D R2 L2 U F2 U
20. 5.01 F2 L2 U' L2 U R2 B2 U2 L' B' D2 U' B2 R' B2 U' F R x2
21. 6.30 L U2 L' U2 B2 R' U2 L F U' R U2 R' U L' R U'
22. 8.62 F2 R2 B' L2 B' U L' R B R' U' R' U2 L2 F x
23. 7.43 L D2 L' R U2 R' D2 R' D2 B D' L' D L2 B' L D2 x'
24. 10.48 B D B2 L B L2 D R2 U2 L B2 R' F2 L U2 L2 x
25. 8.03 F2 L' F D' F' D F' R F2 U2 R2 L2 B' D2 B' D2 x'

Thanks

 

[GuRoux]

Probably mostly solving the whole cube all together a lot is best with some targeted practice. May solving the whole cube at once, you practice each part of the method, moving smoothly between steps, and spend more time cubing and less time scrambling. Looks like your first block is pretty good. I'm not sure if you know full CMLL. If you are, LSE is probably too slow. If you aren't that's something you can work on.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

I'm guessing you use 2-Look CMLL like me. However, I average like 17. So I think you're better off working on other parts of the solve i.e., f2b and lse and also learning CMLL at your own pace

 

[rybaby]

Probably mostly solving the whole cube all together a lot is best with some targeted practice. May solving the whole cube at once, you practice each part of the method, moving smoothly between steps, and spend more time cubing and less time scrambling. Looks like your first block is pretty good. I'm not sure if you know full CMLL. If you are, LSE is probably too slow. If you aren't that's something you can work on.

I'm guessing you use 2-Look CMLL like me. However, I average like 17. So I think you're better off working on other parts of the solve i.e., f2b and lse and also learning CMLL at your own pace

I know about 30 CMLLs and plan on learning the rest soon. I'm sure my F2B could use some work, particularly SB lookahead. Is the best way to practice that just doing more full solves?
Oh and what would good splits be for a 18s solve? 15s?

Thanks!

 

[GuRoux]

I know about 30 CMLLs and plan on learning the rest soon. I'm sure my F2B could use some work, particularly SB lookahead. Is the best way to practice that just doing more full solves?
Oh and what would good splits be for a 18s solve? 15s?

Thanks!

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[CheesecakeCuber]

I know about 30 CMLLs and plan on learning the rest soon. I'm sure my F2B could use some work, particularly SB lookahead. Is the best way to practice that just doing more full solves?
Oh and what would good splits be for a 18s solve? 15s?

Thanks!

Hm, I only know about 18 CMLL algs. So this could be hinting that your LSE has much room to improve. What's your LSE average?

 

[rybaby]

Hm, I only know about 18 CMLL algs. So this could be hinting that your LSE has much room to improve. What's your LSE average?

I did a ao100 last week and got 4.83. But that was with inspection, so it is slower during solves.

 

[GuRoux]

I did a ao100 last week and got 4.83. But that was with inspection, so it is slower during solves.

It's strange I think my LSE was 3.5 since i was sub 20.

 

[DeeDubb]

We need some kind of Roux competition. I'm sad I can't compete in most of the competitions because they are mostly CFOP related. What would be a fun Roux competition? Like post a CMLL algorithm and see everyone's execution speed?

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

We need some kind of Roux competition. I'm sad I can't compete in most of the competitions because they are mostly CFOP related. What would be a fun Roux competition? Like post a CMLL algorithm and see everyone's execution speed?

The idea of a competition sounds cool. But what about people like me who don't know full CMLL? Could this perhaps be used as incentive to learn all algs?