[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

RayLam said:
I got avg 9.58 and avg 18.34OH by roux method on Jul 28's Hefei Open 2013 ,but i don't use table to move middle layer when OH,just rR' or r'R,r2R2 in the air,i think it's more convinient
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Cool, congrats!
Do you have a video of your one-handed style?


YddEd said:
Would it get annoying if I started to post 1 solve every second day so I could try to improve?
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Maybe, idk, just do it ;)
 
Scramble: D R2 B' U2 L B U' L U' R F' D2 F' U2 L2 B' L2 F2 R2 B U2
Inspection: z x' (Blue top Orange front if I got that wrong)
First Block: U2 R U2 L' U' x2 U2 R2 U2 B
Second Block: U r' U' M2 U' R U R2 U2 R' U2 R U r' U' r (This one was hard for me)
CMLL: U F R U' R' U' R U R' F' U' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'
LSE: U M' U2 M' U2 M U M' U' M' U2 M U2 M2' U M U2 M U2
69 moves counting M slices as 1 move.
 
YddEd said:
Scramble: D R2 B' U2 L B U' L U' R F' D2 F' U2 L2 B' L2 F2 R2 B U2
Inspection: z x' (Blue top Orange front if I got that wrong)
First Block: U2 R U2 L' U' x2 U2 R2 U2 B
Second Block: U r' U' M2 U' R U R2 U2 R' U2 R U r' U' r (This one was hard for me)
CMLL: U F R U' R' U' R U R' F' U' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'
LSE: U M' U2 M' U2 M U M' U' M' U2 M U2 M2' U M U2 M U2
69 moves counting M slices as 1 move.
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FB: U2 R U2 L' U' better: U2 F2 D'
U2 R2 U2 B better: U2 M2 B'

SB: U r' U' M2 U' R U better: r U r' U2 R U

LSE: U M' U2 M' U2 M U M' U' M' U2 M better: U M' U2 M' U2 M U M' U' M U2 M'
 
YddEd said:
Scramble: D R2 B' U2 L B U' L U' R F' D2 F' U2 L2 B' L2 F2 R2 B U2
Inspection: z x' (Blue top Orange front if I got that wrong)
First Block: U2 R U2 L' U' x2 U2 R2 U2 B
Second Block: U r' U' M2 U' R U R2 U2 R' U2 R U r' U' r (This one was hard for me)
CMLL: U F R U' R' U' R U R' F' U' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'
LSE: U M' U2 M' U2 M U M' U' M' U2 M U2 M2' U M U2 M U2
69 moves counting M slices as 1 move.
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for the second block i would have done this: r U' R2 U2 r' U' r2 U2 R' U' R
 
Can someone critique?

U2 R F' R2 L B' R B D F U2 F' D2 L2 B' R2 F D2 B2 D2

z2 U' L U F' x' U M U' M2 U2 r U' l'
R' U R U R' U' R U R M U M' U2 r' U' R
Double sune
U' M2 U' M' U M' U M' U2 M U M U2 M U2 M2

First block was pretty bad. Second was pretty average.

Edit: Here's one more:

U B2 D L2 U' B2 R2 U' B D2 L B' F2 D L U2 F' R'

Hold blue top, yellow front (y2 x)
U R2 D U' F U F' U L' U' L
U R2 U' r U' R U' R U2 M2 U2 r U r'
Y-perm
M' U M U M' U M' U M' U2 M' U' M2 U M U2 M U2

Pretty much average again.
 
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U2 R F' R2 L B' R B D F U2 F' D2 L2 B' R2 F D2 B2 D2

Okeh. FB: z2 x' D' U2 L' U L R U' R' U x'
SB: M U2 M2 R2 U r U M U2 R U R' (Meh...)
CMLL: F R2 F L2 F' R2 F L2 F2
LSE: M2 U' M' U M' M2 U' M' U2 M' U' M2 U2 M U2 M
 
U2 R F' R2 L B' R B D F U2 F' D2 L2 B' R2 F D2 B2 D2

If I started with the same block as you:
z2 U' L U F' B2 R' B R2 B' (10|10)
R' U' Rw' U Rw U' Rw' U' M' U2 R' U R (13|26) (2nd block always sucks for me)
U2 F R' F' R U2 R U2 R' (9|35)
M' U M' U2 M U M U M' U M' (11|46) (damn 6flip)
U2 M' U2 M (4|50)
U M2 U2 M' U2 M' U2 (7|57)
 
pijok said:
What is average movecount for second block?
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I think around 12 moves or less is what the really good cubers do in a speed solve for the second block.

scramble: U2 R F' R2 L B' R B D F U2 F' D2 L2 B' R2 F D2 B2 D2

blue center on the left and white center on bottom

FB: U' r' F' D' U2 M' U R B'
SB: R U r' U R U' M2 U' r U' R'
CMLL: U' L' U2 L F' L' U2 l R U' r'
LSE: U2 M' U' M' U' M U' M U' M' U2 M' U' M U2 M'
 
TheOneOnTheLeft said:
Seems high to me too - best bet is probably to count the average from something like this.
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19.1 STM average for second block there

edit:

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...l-8-63-Average&p=821170&viewfull=1#post821170
Here it is 18.33

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...-average-of-12&p=723068&viewfull=1#post723068
Here it is: 18.67

5BLD said:
No its 12
You're probably being inefficient in some ways
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Looking on reconstructions of fast solves it seems more like 18 to me
I am inefficient for sure ;)
 
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Hey pros; i just started using roux, and learned from waffles tut! For a new rouxer, do you have any tips? I'd say my biggest weaknesses are the 2nd block & step 4a, which is making the bad edges good. I have experience with ZZ, and CFOP, but i doubt that helps. Makss.
 
makssl6911 said:
Hey pros; i just started using roux, and learned from waffles tut! For a new rouxer, do you have any tips? I'd say my biggest weaknesses are the 2nd block & step 4a, which is making the bad edges good. I have experience with ZZ, and CFOP, but i doubt that helps. Makss.
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Well ZZ fill definitely help you grasp the concept of fixing bad edges and CFOP will kind of help with hard block-pair cases. (Though sometimes your algs aren't the most efficient way to do something)

I'm no pro, but
To improve your SB: watch example solve vids, remember to only use U,R,r,and M moves (for now), the m-slice is a great tool for pairing, so use it! Also, Roux is rotation less, so find clever ways to insert pairs like this: Setup-R U R' U y' To insert this pair without rotations, do: r' U' r. This is possible because in Roux we don't care about the m-slice orientation.

To improve 4a: get your cases down cold and even know what case comes next so you don't waste recognition time, know how to intuitively use Moo (M' U M') to cycle cases, for good algs, watch Alex's (5BLD) Rouxtorial on youtube
 
CheesecakeCuber said:
Well ZZ fill definitely help you grasp the concept of fixing bad edges and CFOP will kind of help with hard block-pair cases. (Though sometimes your algs aren't the most efficient way to do something)

I'm no pro, but
To improve your SB: watch example solve vids, remember to only use U,R,r,and M moves (for now), the m-slice is a great tool for pairing, so use it! Also, Roux is rotation less, so find clever ways to insert pairs like this: Setup-R U R' U y' To insert this pair without rotations, do: r' U' r. This is possible because in Roux we don't care about the m-slice orientation.

To improve 4a: get your cases down cold and even know what case comes next so you don't waste recognition time, know how to intuitively use Moo (M' U M') to cycle cases, for good algs, watch Alex's (5BLD) Rouxtorial on youtube
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Thanks! The 4a step is something i'd rather learn intuitively, as i believe i'll recognize, and do it faster that way. For the last pair, thanks for the advice! I'll go watch some roux walkthrough solves!
 
pijok said:
19.1 STM average for second block there

edit:

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...l-8-63-Average&p=821170&viewfull=1#post821170
Here it is 18.33

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...-average-of-12&p=723068&viewfull=1#post723068
Here it is: 18.67


Looking on reconstructions of fast solves it seems more like 18 to me
I am inefficient for sure ;)
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Lol I suck
I wonder if I'm still that bad. Don't look at my solves for advice on SB, I'm pretty sure I'm better now (I hope so).

Edit: actually probably about 16 is ok
 
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