[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[Bestsimple]

For both blocks?

 

[YddEd]

For both blocks?

Both blocks would be good

 

[Bestsimple]

no i mean can you do f2b in 16 moves?

 

[YddEd]

no i mean can you do f2b in 16 moves?

First block is over 16 moves and second block is over 20 unless I get a lucky case.

 

[Bestsimple]

For the first block the first thing you have to do is to identify all the pieces. From there try to optimise and make the first block by focussing on all the pieces rather than just inserting an edge making a pair then inserting. For this scramble U2 R2 B R' B2 U F L2 R2 F B D2 R U B D R' L U D' R' U' D R' B2 i see 2 pairs and an edge I would do the scramble like this F'D'F2Ur'U. Also don't do silly inserts like L' U L rather than just F'

 

[YddEd]

For the first block the first thing you have to do is to identify all the pieces. From there try to optimise and make the first block by focussing on all the pieces rather than just inserting an edge making a pair then inserting.

Okay.. but how do I optimise it? I'm still trying to get to 15 moves, so I can use more than that. ( Or I may think too much )
Also my orientation is Yellow top Blue front.

 

[Bestsimple]

Why don't you do an example solve so i can look at what you're doing wrong.

 

[YddEd]

Why don't you do an example solve so i can look at what you're doing wrong.

Alright.
scramble: D2 F2 U' B2 D R2 B2 D' B2 D' L2 B R' B R2 B' U' B R F2 U'
x'
First Block: U' L U2 L' U' R' U' r U' L' U' L' r' U' R' U R U' L' U' L U2 L' U r B' (HORRIBLE)
Second Block: U' R' U R' U M' R' U R U' R U R' U2 R M' U' R' U' R U' R' U' R (HORRIBLE)
Then.. I don't need CMLL and LSE do I?

 

[cowabunga]

Crazy FB!
Try: y L D' R U B R r B'

 

[YddEd]

Crazy FB!
Try: y L D' R U B R r B'

Too bad I wouldn't see that and it wouldn't work for me since my orientation is Y/B

 

[pijok]

Alright.
scramble: D2 F2 U' B2 D R2 B2 D' B2 D' L2 B R' B R2 B' U' B R F2 U'
x'
First Block: U' L U2 L' U' R' U' r U' L' U' L' r' U' R' U R U' L' U' L U2 L' U r B' (HORRIBLE)
Second Block: U' R' U R' U M' R' U R U' R U R' U2 R M' U' R' U' R U' R' U' R (HORRIBLE)

What the hell are you doing there?

First Block
U' L U2 L' Okay this will build a pair, I guess there are a lot of better ways to start, but it isn't too bad for you
U' R' U' r U' L' U' This is to insert the pair?? Just do B U instead
L' r' U' R' U R U' L' U' L U2 Here you are building the other pair? You could have done l' U2 r2 U and block is solved...
L' U r B' Hrm optional F r U'


For that block I would have done something like:
x2
F' U2 L2 D' B R U2 F' U (9)

 

[cowabunga]

Too bad I wouldn't see that and it wouldn't work for me since my orientation is Y/B

Ok try this then:
x
U F' D2 U' r B' F2 U' F r' F (FB Ugly)
M U R2 U R U2 R' U' M' U' r (SB Better)

 

[Kirjava]

http://laire.fi/jarcs/ will help you find blocks.

 

[cowabunga]

http://laire.fi/jarcs/ will help you find blocks.

:tu:tu:tu

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

Too bad I wouldn't see that and it wouldn't work for me since my orientation is Y/B

I started out with that orientation. People told me not to use a set orientation because it will hinder your ability to solve optimal blocks, so I'm telling you now, TRY TO BE Y-COLOR NEUTRAL. Meaning, keep yellow or white on top.

 

[YddEd]

I started out with that orientation. People told me not to use a set orientation because it will hinder your ability to solve optimal blocks, so I'm telling you now, TRY TO BE Y-COLOR NEUTRAL. Meaning, keep yellow or white on top.

I'm pretty sure I can do Y/G AND Y/B but, Ill try Y/B, Y/G, Y/R and Y/O. Then Ill slowly use white or yellow on top. Thanks

 

[MWilson]

Going from the block solution you came up with to optimal block solutions from JARCS is a huge step. I'd say first try studying 1x2x2 (square) solutions off of JARCS to gain some square building intuition.

 

[YddEd]

Going from the block solution you came up with to optimal block solutions from JARCS is a huge step. I'd say first try studying 1x2x2 (square) solutions off of JARCS to gain some square building intuition.

I don't need the block to be THAT efficient. Just efficient enough to make it under 15 moves or so. But I'll definitely do that.

 

[solvelecewbe]

Might switch to Roux, I need some tips.

So I'm averaging about 26 seconds with CFOP. I like to solve with Roux better, but I suck at it.
Where do I get started, and how do I get back to my sub-30 ways, with this new, method?

 

[YddEd]

So I'm averaging about 26 seconds with CFOP. I like to solve with Roux better, but I suck at it.
Where do I get started, and how do I get back to my sub-30 ways, with this new, method?

What part do you 'suck' at?