Zelda
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I'm talking about the first B/R Edge, above the Blue center to where the video links: ZZ Method Tutorial Part 4: EO Line at 24 minutes 29 seconds, which is where the link takes you.
[Help Thread] ZZ and ZB Discussion
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uvafan
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It's bad because it's red on the U face.
Zelda
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Oh, so by saying that it's bad if it's on the other faces, it applies to U/D and not just F/B?
uvafan
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Yes.
Zelda
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Sweet, I can do all my edge detection in the 15 seconds, so It's a start. Onto the F2L part, Line is kinda easy.
aznanimedude
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F2L're pretty easy too 
blockbuilding it's a little harder
blockbuilding it's a little harder
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Just did a 22.84 PB zz single. Just 6 seconds better than my CFOP PBI love this method! CFOP feels really annoying to do after a lot of ZZ... so boring and full of cube rotations.
Nice! Completely agree with you! ZZ feels amazing in your hands when you execute the F2L! Especially compared to CFOP
Zelda
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F2L're pretty easy too
blockbuilding it's a little harder
It's actually not that bad, but I came from heise, so that may be a factor.
Uh, Question: for the COLL w/ ZZ, I was watching this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yLbRAuT8co, are there 7 algorithms, or 7 sets of cases (so more than 7 algorithms)?
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pandaXIONG
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Some people use ZZmethod？
I have a friend now he is average 11 use ZZmethod，I want to know how many people can average 11 use ZZmethod in the world.
Somebody help me?Thanks.
I have a friend now he is average 11 use ZZmethod，I want to know how many people can average 11 use ZZmethod in the world.
Somebody help me?Thanks.
Ickathu
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Anyone can get 11 seconds using ZZ if they want to. It takes just as much practice as anything else.
Zelda
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This. Practice Practice Practice. That's all you need. You can get that time with any other method too.
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Oh, okay, so it's 6 algorithms for 7 different cases, got it: only gotta learn 42 of these, plus 6 algorithms for PLL
mDiPalma
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or you can use 7 oclls and 21 plls.
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it's actually 40 because 2 of the cases in H are the same so there's actually only 4 H cases pretty much
and you actually need to know all 21 PLLs incase of OLL skip
and you actually need to know all 21 PLLs incase of OLL skip
Zelda
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What is OCLL? And I think I might just go to full ZZLL. Oh, 21 cases, not 6 >.>
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OCLL is the 7 OLL algorithms where the edges are already oriented
edit: also ZZLL eh? interesting
edit: also ZZLL eh? interesting
Zelda
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Yea, I mean If i have to learn 30~40, why not go the extra mile and learn full ZZLL? It would also help with ZBLL later.
