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Bobby d'Angelo brought it to my attention that until last weekend, we both had an official 3x3 average of 12.29, both set in the final round of a competition on May 19, 2012. We both came in third place, and both of our third solves that average were 13.25.
 

1. 9.62 F2 L D2 U2 B2 F2 R2 B2 L' U2 L' U' R2 B L D' F L R2 B2 D'
2. 8.94 F R2 F2 R2 F' L2 B U2 B' D' F2 L R B U2 B2 L2 D' B' R
3. 8.93 D F2 U B2 R2 U' B2 D2 F2 L2 F2 R' U F' U2 R F L D F' U'
4. (9.89) D2 F' L' F2 B2 D B' D' F' B2 U2 F2 R U2 L U2 B2 R' L F2
5. (8.28) F U2 F U2 L2 R2 U2 F U2 L2 F2 U' B U' L U B' L2 F R U2
[youtubewide]9G7GwpzI3tk[/youtubewide]
F2 L D2 U2 B2 F2 R2 B2 L' U2 L' U' R2 B L D' F L R2 B2 D'

y' x' // inspection
M' U r' y // LF block
R' U2' F' // LB pair
U' r2 M U M' r U R' U' R2 U // RF block
R U' R // RB pair
U2' R U R' U R U L' U R' U' L // CMLL
U M' U M' U M U' M' // EO
U' M2' U M U2 M' U' // UL/UR
M' U2 M U2 // EP
View at alg.garron.us
Code: 
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	9.62	51	5.30	58	6.03	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
Lblock	1.32	6	4.55	8	6.06		Lblock/F2B	26.5%	30.0%	32.0%
Rblock	3.67	14	3.81	17	4.63		Rblock/F2B	73.5%	70.0%	68.0%
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.99	20	4.01	25	5.01	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]F2B/Total	51.9%	39.2%	43.1%[/COLOR]

CMLL	1.79	12	6.70	13	7.26		CMLL/Total	18.6%	23.5%	22.4%
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	2.84	19	6.69	20	7.04	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]LSE/Total	29.5%	37.3%	34.5%[/COLOR]
L10P	4.63	31	6.70	33	7.13		L10P/Total	48.1%	60.8%	56.9%
F2 L D2 U2 B2 F2 R2 B2 L' U2 L' U' R2 B L D' F L R2 B2 D'

y' x' // inspection
M' U r' y // LF block
R' U' U' F' // LB pair
U' r2 r' R U R' R M' r U R' U' R2 U // RF block
R U' R // RB pair
U' U' R U R' U R U L' U R' U' L // CMLL
U M' U M' U r' R U' M' // EO
U' M2' U M U2 M' U' // UL/UR
M' U2 M U2 // EP
View at alg.garron.us
F R2 F2 R2 F' L2 B U2 B' D' F2 L R B U2 B2 L2 D' B' R

y2 // inspection
U M' U y' L U x2' // LB block
U' R U R' F // LF pair
r U R U R // RF block
U' r U' R' // RB pair
U2 F R U' R' U R U R' U R U' R' F' // CMLL
U M' U' M' // EO
U2 M' U2 M U' M2' U // UL/UR
U2 M' U2 M' // EP
View at alg.garron.us
Code: 
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	8.94	48	5.37	52	5.82	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
Lblock	2.30	10	4.35	12	5.22		Lblock/F2B	54.8%	52.6%	57.1%
Rblock	1.90	9	4.74	9	4.74		Rblock/F2B	45.2%	47.4%	42.9%
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.20	19	4.52	21	5.00	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]F2B/Total	47.0%	39.6%	40.4%[/COLOR]

CMLL	2.10	14	6.67	15	7.14		CMLL/Total	23.5%	29.2%	28.8%
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	2.64	15	5.68	16	6.06	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]LSE/Total	29.5%	31.3%	30.8%[/COLOR]
L10P	4.74	29	6.12	31	6.54		L10P/Total	53.0%	60.4%	59.6%
F R2 F2 R2 F' L2 B U2 B' D' F2 L R B U2 B2 L2 D' B' R

y2 // inspection
U M' U y' L U x2' // LB block
U' R U R' F // LF pair
r U R U R // RF block
U' r U' R' // RB pair
U U F R U' R' U R U R' U R U' R' F' // CMLL
U M' U' M' // EO
U U M' U2 M U' M2' U // UL/UR
U2 M' U2 M' // EP
View at alg.garron.us
D F2 U B2 R2 U' B2 D2 F2 L2 F2 R' U F' U2 R F L D F' U'

z // inspection
r U r U x // LB block
F' // LF pair
U' r2 U' M' U R U' R' U R' U' R // RF block
M2' U2 R U2' R' U r // RB pair
R U2 R' U' R U' R' // CMLL
M' U M' U' M U M' // EO
M2' U' M U2 M' U' // UL/UR
U2 M' U2 M // EP
View at alg.garron.us
Code: 
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	8.93	48	5.38	52	5.82	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
Lblock	1.20	5	4.17	6	5.00		Lblock/F2B	25.1%	20.8%	21.4%
Rblock	3.58	19	5.31	22	6.15		Rblock/F2B	74.9%	79.2%	78.6%
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.78	24	5.02	28	5.86	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]F2B/Total	53.5%	50.0%	53.8%[/COLOR]

CMLL	1.58	7	4.43	7	4.43		CMLL/Total	17.7%	14.6%	13.5%
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	2.57	17	6.61	17	6.61	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]LSE/Total	28.8%	35.4%	32.7%[/COLOR]
L10P	4.15	24	5.78	24	5.78		L10P/Total	46.5%	50.0%	46.2%
D F2 U B2 R2 U' B2 D2 F2 L2 F2 R' U F' U2 R F L D F' U'

z // inspection
r U r U x // LB block
F' // LF pair
U' r2 U' M' U R U' R' U R' U' R // RF block
M' M' U U R U' U' R' U r // RB pair
R U2 R' U' R U' R' // CMLL
M' U M' U' M U M' // EO
M2' U' M U2 M' U' // UL/UR
U2 M' U2 M // EP
View at alg.garron.us
D2 F' L' F2 B2 D B' D' F' B2 U2 F2 R U2 L U2 B2 R' L F2

x' y // inspection
r2 B // LB block
r' F' // LF pair
U' r' U' r U r U R' U' R U' R' U R2 // RF block
U R' M' U' r // RB pair
R' U' R U' R' U2' R2 U R' U R U2' R' // CMLL
U' M U M' U' M U M' // EO
U2 M' U2 M U M2' U // UL/UR
M U2 M' U2 // EP
View at alg.garron.us
Code: 
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	9.89	57	5.76	61	6.17	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
Lblock	0.83	4	4.82	4	4.82		Lblock/F2B	19.3%	17.4%	17.4%
Rblock	3.46	19	5.49	19	5.49		Rblock/F2B	80.7%	82.6%	82.6%
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.29	23	5.36	23	5.36	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]F2B/Total	43.4%	40.4%	37.7%[/COLOR]

CMLL	2.37	15	6.33	17	7.17		CMLL/Total	24.0%	26.3%	27.9%
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	3.23	19	5.88	21	6.50	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]LSE/Total	32.7%	33.3%	34.4%[/COLOR]
L10P	5.60	34	6.07	38	6.79		L10P/Total	56.6%	59.6%	62.3%
D2 F' L' F2 B2 D B' D' F' B2 U2 F2 R U2 L U2 B2 R' L F2

x' y // inspection
r2 B // LB block
r' F' // LF pair
U' r' U' r U r U R' U' R U' R' U R // RF block
R U R' M' U' r // RB pair
U' U R' U' R U' R' U' U' R2 U R' U R U' U' R' // CMLL
U' R r' U M' U' R r' U M' // EO
U2 M' U2 M U M2' U // UL/UR
M U2 M' U2 // EP
View at alg.garron.us
D2 F' L' F2 B2 D B' D' F' B2 U2 F2 R U2 L U2 B2 R' L F2

z' M2 U' y x2
U r M' U R
U R U R' U' R U R'
U R U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' R U' R'
U M U' M' U2 M' U M U'
M U2 M U2
View at alg.garron.us
F U2 F U2 L2 R2 U2 F U2 L2 F2 U' B U' L U B' L2 F R U2

y' x' // inspection
U' r U r' U' (y x2) // LB block
U (r L) F' // LF pair
U' r U r U R U R' U R U' R' // RF block
R' U' R U R' U' R // RB pair
U' F R U' R' U R U R' F' // CMLL
U' M' U M' U2 M' U' M' // EO
U M U2 M' U M2' // EP
View at alg.garron.us
Code: 
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	8.28	51	6.16	52	6.28	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
Lblock	1.67	8	4.79	9	5.39		Lblock/F2B	38.0%	29.6%	32.1%
Rblock	2.72	19	6.99	19	6.99		Rblock/F2B	62.0%	70.4%	67.9%
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.39	27	6.15	28	6.38	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]F2B/Total	53.0%	52.9%	53.8%[/COLOR]

CMLL	1.53	10	6.54	10	6.54		CMLL/Total	18.5%	19.6%	19.2%
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	2.36	14	5.93	14	5.93	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]LSE/Total	28.5%	27.5%	26.9%[/COLOR]
L10P	3.89	24	6.17	24	6.17		L10P/Total	47.0%	47.1%	46.2%
F U2 F U2 L2 R2 U2 F U2 L2 F2 U' B U' L U B' L2 F R U2

y' x' // inspection
U' r U r' U' (y x2) // LB block
U (r L) F' // LF pair
U' r U r U R U R' U R U' R' // RF block
R' U' R U R' U' R // RB pair
U' F R U' R' U R U R' F' // CMLL
U' M' U M' U2 M' U' M' // EO
U M U2 M' U M2' // EP
View at alg.garron.us
Code: 
Average (removing fastest and slowest solve)
			
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	9.16	49.00	5.35	54.00	5.89	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
Lblock	1.61	7.00	4.36	8.67	5.39		Lblock/F2B	34.5%	33.3%	35.1%
Rblock	3.05	14.00	4.59	16.00	5.25		Rblock/F2B	65.5%	66.7%	64.9%
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.66	21.00	4.51	24.67	5.30	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]F2B/Total	50.8%	42.9%	45.7%[/COLOR]

CMLL	1.82	11.00	6.03	11.67	6.40		CMLL/Total	19.9%	22.4%	21.6%
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	2.68	17.00	6.34	17.00	6.34	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]LSE/Total	29.3%	34.7%	31.5%[/COLOR]
L10P	4.51	28.00	6.21	29.33	6.51		L10P/Total	49.2%	57.1%	54.3%

Code: 
Mean (5/5)
									
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	9.13	51.00	5.58	55.00	6.02	[/COLOR]	[B][SIZE="4"]%[/SIZE]
							Step		Time	STM	ETM[/B]
Lblock	1.46	6.60	4.51	7.80	5.33		Lblock/F2B	32.3%	29.2%	31.2%
Rblock	3.07	16.00	5.22	17.20	5.61		Rblock/F2B	67.7%	70.8%	68.8%
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.53	22.60	4.99	25.00	5.52	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]F2B/Total	49.6%	44.3%	45.5%[/COLOR]

CMLL	1.87	11.60	6.19	12.40	6.62		CMLL/Total	20.5%	22.7%	22.5%
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	2.73	16.80	6.16	17.60	6.45	[/COLOR]	[COLOR="blue"]LSE/Total	29.9%	32.9%	32.0%[/COLOR]
L10P	4.60	28.40	6.17	30.00	6.52		L10P/Total	50.4%	55.7%	54.5%

Code: 
Best from each field
								
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
[COLOR="red"]Total	8.28	48	6.16	52	6.28[/COLOR]
				
Lblock	0.83	4	4.82	4	6.06
Rblock	1.90	9	6.99	9	6.99
[COLOR="blue"]F2B	4.20	19	6.15	21	6.38[/COLOR]
			
CMLL	1.53	7	6.70	7	7.26
[COLOR="blue"]LSE	2.36	14	6.69	14	7.04[/COLOR]					
L10P	3.89	24	6.70	24	7.13
 
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am trying to get sub10 avg12 on video. did 9.91, but one of the solves was a +2 :(

reading the recons, I've noticed that I almost never do M or M' as two moves anymore
 
This was probably found out before, but I wanted to share my findings. A lot of cubers hate that springy sound/feeling they get in some cubes, and my mf8 v2 megaminx had that feeling on the red side. I took apart the whole thing to lube and tension, and when I was tensioning the red side, I mistakenly pulled out the screw, and I think I found out where the springy noise comes from. One of the washers on the screw were broken, not completely, but they were pretty....lets say chipped. I think that's where the weird noise/feeling comes from.
 
skittlez350 said:
This was probably found out before, but I wanted to share my findings. A lot of cubers hate that springy sound/feeling they get in some cubes, and my mf8 v2 megaminx had that feeling on the red side. I took apart the whole thing to lube and tension, and when I was tensioning the red side, I mistakenly pulled out the screw, and I think I found out where the springy noise comes from. One of the washers on the screw were broken, not completely, but they were pretty....lets say chipped. I think that's where the weird noise/feeling comes from.
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Pretty much every cube I have gotten in has had this. From 3x3s to megaminxes to 6x6 to you name it, I would not be amazed if the 11x11 I have coming in has it. I have yet to encounter a cube that does not have it. I always take them apart to the core and lube and tension things.

Just yesterday a ShengShou 3x3 for a friend, and yep, that had it. No washers in there mind you, so the tingting came from the spring jumping on the screw there. And what do you know.. the one that tingtinged the most? The spring was in the centerpiece upside down. Pre assembled, ok, but I always check things to make sure they are assembled OK to begin with.
 
Remember this thread, and how everyone dismissed the OP? I think the cube turned out to legitimately lived up to it's hype.
 
Owen said:
Remember this thread, and how everyone dismissed the OP? I think the cube turned out to legitimately lived up to it's hype.
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OP was kind of a jerk about it (if that's possible). He was like "I'll rub it in your face!" "It's the best cube evar!"

Also, reading these posts made me lol (because of how things are now) :
Akuma said:
Nothing beats the YJ 3x3 as fasr as corner cutting goes. I have yet to see a single cube be more smooth or cut corners better than YJs.
Click to expand...

Parity said:
I think this cube is rushed ... and it looks like crap.
Click to expand...
 
Doing random turns on a 2x2, I see if I can find an alg thats easy to do that doesn't do anything. Then I did it on a 3x3 and it was almost an ELL alg so I just added a move at the beginning and end.
 
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