Kirjava
Colourful
No it shouldn't. I'd vote 6 and I'm not colour neutral.
No it shouldn't. I'd vote 6 and I'm not colour neutral.
Dene
Premium Member
He should have done what someone above suggested, and asked if people think single cross, opposite cross, CN, or some other variation, is the best. specifying white and yellow was just silly.
freshcuber
Veteran
The poll options are foolish because this is a new member who makes a thread every time an idea pops into his head. He just needs to sit back and lurk moar.
Edit: He's started eleven threads since he started, most of which are useless and could have been resolved in the OAQT. Anything with a poll has had options similar to this one in that they're not well thought out and are all around sub par.
Edit: He's started eleven threads since he started, most of which are useless and could have been resolved in the OAQT. Anything with a poll has had options similar to this one in that they're not well thought out and are all around sub par.
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fastcubesolver
Veteran
I chose white cross, from personal experience. I would fail at CN and even a yellow cross. I think that if you were really good at it(Rowe, Faz), then CN is best, but I made my decision based on what I personally prefer.
LeighzerCuber
Regular
When you consistently use only one color f2l is very easy because you are used to looking for the same 8 pieces every time and you recognize bad pieces faster. CN people just have developed that recog from one side to all sides by practicing a hell of a lot more. That is why sticking w/ one color or dual cross solving is beneficial to relatively slow people.
The Bloody Talon
Regular
i'm white/yellow
but I'm rying to be a CN.
I think CN is the best
but I'm rying to be a CN.
I think CN is the best
Moops
Regular
I tried color neutrality with CFOP and hated it. From my experience it's only good if you want to find an easy start. I build EOLine, not cross, on either white or yellow and recognition during F2L is so much easier. Instead of going for color neutrality for an easy start or because it's the hip thing to do it is better to learn how to deal with harder cases efficiently.
emolover
Legend
In your case it might be easier. You learned to recognize colors and color neutral people learned to recognize patterns. A fixed cross in no way enables you to have better recognition.
Moops
Regular
That would make a much more interesting poll and discussion. What is best/better/good? Recognising colors or recognising patterns?
emolover
Legend
Even if you are right about recognition being better with a fixed cross and a better start with color neutral, they probably cancel each other out.
jskyler91
Veteran
And with enough practice, CN should simply be better due to the increased chances of x cross and the easier cross solves.
5BLD
Legend
Full colour neutrality annoys me. My LSE is faster with white/yellow on L/R but my blocks are so much slower this way. So I have to stay white/yellow colour neutral.
The problem is, if I practiced colour neutrality, won't it slow my progress and only give me a tiny tiny advantage? Any colour neutral Rouxers out there (hello Cool Frog), does it benefit you a lot?
The problem is, if I practiced colour neutrality, won't it slow my progress and only give me a tiny tiny advantage? Any colour neutral Rouxers out there (hello Cool Frog), does it benefit you a lot?
Moops
Regular
CN Could be better but CFOP isn't the only method. Are there any color neutral ZZ users out there?
Kirjava
Colourful
They wouldn't possibly know.
PandaCuber
Veteran
My lse is only a sec slower when i dont do it with yellow U.
im reallllly thinking about becoming CN, cause my blocks are a mess.
And since im not that good(as you), there would no problem, right??
Rama
Veteran
I started out this week with cn and i do at least one avg of 12 a day with all the colours.
I'm around 15 with yellow and 25 with the rest.
It's not that hard, just be patient.
P.S. it's also quite fun to see my times drop down by the seconds again instead of tenths and hundreds.
I'm around 15 with yellow and 25 with the rest.
It's not that hard, just be patient.
P.S. it's also quite fun to see my times drop down by the seconds again instead of tenths and hundreds.
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porkynator
Veteran
I am white/yellow EOLine color neutral too, but I wouldn't say this is color neutrality, since I need orange/red on F/B and white/yellow on U/D. I think it would be very hard to be full color neutral with ZZ, and also, how would one inspect? Checking EO for the 6 different possible orientation (counting them in groups of 4) is rather impossible to do in 15 seconds.
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