Combined Cubing Channel

Anthony said:
According to your signature your 3x3 PB is 16.52, so I think it's safe to assume you average sup 20. I look forward to your advanced Fridrich tutorials. :)
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What I meant is I average 40 with petrus but around 25 with fridrich. If I do get to join I will probably show how to recognize 2look OLL efficiently and faster and a good way to progress into being colour neutral.

OP: Instead of having 5 members why not 7? Also instead of being forced to post on a day what about we just do it in a specific order and have a minimum requirement of time to post a video?

If you do want a video sample I can post it on my site. My revamped cubing section is almost finished.
 
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Tim Major said:
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Some PLL cases are obvious commutators (A-perms = A9s), but whilst some PLLs = commutators, commutators =/= PLL.
Why are people needing to tryout to get into this. What do you (the automatic leader) offer?
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darkerarceus said:
You have a really good point there.
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We're having people try out so that random people without expertise don't join and make the group a failure. And also, I was thinking about getting somebody else to be the 'leader' considering I can't lead anything to save my life. And now, just thinking about it, I don't really have anything to offer. Nothing. I just thought it would be fun.
 
I'll be putting up quite a few hardware reviews after my univs. I'm also planning a tutorial on remembering olls and plls. It's aimed at helping newbies get the hang of the algs. It's a method i've been trying out with many friends and it's given me good results.

A fine example: A close friend of mine has been trying to learn the fridrich ll for over 4 to 5 months now. She is a VERY slow learner with infinitesimal patience. To top it all, she doesn't practice. A mutual friend, the first guy i taught has been tutoring her. The other day, i taught her 2 look oll in just under 15 minutes, something he had been trying to achieve for over a few months.

I've also managed to teach a few kids ranging from 4 th to 9th grade, including my brother. This method works hehe...
 
ianography said:
We're having people try out so that random people without expertise don't join and make the group a failure. And also, I was thinking about getting somebody else to be the 'leader' considering I can't lead anything to save my life. And now, just thinking about it, I don't really have anything to offer. Nothing. I just thought it would be fun.
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Firstly, change that "We're" an "I'm". Who other than you makes the ultimate decision?
Additionally, what expertise do you have? Accodring to your WCA profile, you're decent at 3x3, but in everything else, you haven't seriously practised.
Next, why do you have the ultimate power to let people in and out if you're not a leader? Also, shouldn't it be that people already admitted into the group help choose?

The way I see it, I think you had this great idea, and so you put it forth without thinking all too hard about it. I bet that a lot of points brought up in this thread were things you didn't think of. It's a good concept, but it won't go anywhere until the people involved are even somewhat experienced in some fashion. That's what makes it interesting.

Also, "commutator" isn't a synonym for "PLL algorithm", as Tim said. Commutators are used mainly as optimal intuitive algorithms designed to cycle three pieces without disturbing anything else. They follow the basic pattern A B A' B', where A and B can be a single move, multiple moves, etc.
 
Ranzha V. Emodrach said:
Firstly, change that "We're" an "I'm". Who other than you makes the ultimate decision?
Additionally, what expertise do you have? Accodring to your WCA profile, you're decent at 3x3, but in everything else, you haven't seriously practised.
Next, why do you have the ultimate power to let people in and out if you're not a leader? Also, shouldn't it be that people already admitted into the group help choose?

The way I see it, I think you had this great idea, and so you put it forth without thinking all too hard about it. I bet that a lot of points brought up in this thread were things you didn't think of. It's a good concept, but it won't go anywhere until the people involved are even somewhat experienced in some fashion. That's what makes it interesting.

Also, "commutator" isn't a synonym for "PLL algorithm", as Tim said. Commutators are used mainly as optimal intuitive algorithms designed to cycle three pieces without disturbing anything else. They follow the basic pattern A B A' B', where A and B can be a single move, multiple moves, etc.
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The other person that helps with the final decisions is cyoubx. He has a lot of good ideas and would most likely make the channel a success. That, and also the other members haven't really been contacting me, probably because they are busy.
Also, I don't really practice 3x3 all too much, but more of 4x4 and megaminx, even though I'm quite slow at them.
Lastly, I should have made this clearer in my other post: I would be the leader until the group is established with all the members, the channel is made, we find out a schedule, etc. After that is all done, then I would pass off being the leader to somebody else.
 
Ohai!

I agree with Ranzha, but keep in mind that we haven't actually done anything yet. Clearly it's not ready yet, or else a channel would already be up.

Secondly, I agree experience is helpful in making it interesting, but why is it imperative? Why can't people just be naturally likable without necessarily being fast or experienced?

Thirdly, I think a lot of people are assuming that this channel will have amazing tutorials for super fast people without a CLEAR notion of such a fact. A lot of cubers here are already faster than any of the people who will probably join anyway. There are a lot of people on YouTube who are not cubers...maybe they're just starting and want people who aren't so good so that they can relate more (maybe that's just a quaint idea, but whatever). Quite frankly, the cubing population here is a gross minority compared to the millions of other people on YouTube. Wouldn't it be better to target beginners and get them interested instead of fueling intermediates?

I always thought cubing was just a fun, rather quirky, hobby, and not something to fuss over. If a few people want to make a channel and cube for fun, why are there so many issues? It's not always about the views and the subscribers. It's also not always for the people who are already experienced.

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cyoubx said:
Secondly, I agree experience is helpful in making it interesting, but why is it imperative? Why can't people just be naturally likable without necessarily being fast or experienced?
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They certainly can be, but every bit helps. If it's a cubing channel, cubers would expect to see cube stuff there. Interesting cube stuff, not just a random average here and there. Therefore, it's imperative to keep it interesting, and two predominant attributes that could contribute to this are speed and knowledge.

cyoubx said:
I always thought cubing was just a fun, rather quirky, hobby, and not something to fuss over. If a few people want to make a channel and cube for fun, why are there so many issues? It's not always about the views and the subscribers. It's also not always for the people who are already experienced.

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From how I perceived it, it wasn't all fun and games. It was a basis for it, but in the end, it's about learning about cubes.
 
cyoubx said:
Ohai!

I agree with Ranzha, but keep in mind that we haven't actually done anything yet. Clearly it's not ready yet, or else a channel would already be up.

Secondly, I agree experience is helpful in making it interesting, but why is it imperative? Why can't people just be naturally likable without necessarily being fast or experienced?

Thirdly, I think a lot of people are assuming that this channel will have amazing tutorials for super fast people without a CLEAR notion of such a fact. A lot of cubers here are already faster than any of the people who will probably join anyway. There are a lot of people on YouTube who are not cubers...maybe they're just starting and want people who aren't so good so that they can relate more (maybe that's just a quaint idea, but whatever). Quite frankly, the cubing population here is a gross minority compared to the millions of other people on YouTube. Wouldn't it be better to target beginners and get them interested instead of fueling intermediates?

I always thought cubing was just a fun, rather quirky, hobby, and not something to fuss over. If a few people want to make a channel and cube for fun, why are there so many issues? It's not always about the views and the subscribers. It's also not always for the people who are already experienced.

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I'm starting to think that you should be the leader.
 
They certainly can be, but every bit helps. If it's a cubing channel, cubers would expect to see cube stuff there. Interesting cube stuff, not just a random average here and there. Therefore, it's imperative to keep it interesting, and two predominant attributes that could contribute to this are speed and knowledge.
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Right, that's why I said I agreed. I was implying that those aren't the ONLY factors that matter. Also, we're not exactly beginners. Sure, I may only be Warp-4, but consider the people who aren't there yet. The number of people faster than that is much smaller than those slower.

From how I perceived it, it wasn't all fun and games. It was a basis for it, but in the end, it's about learning about cubes.
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Again, I agree conditionally. I really don't see this channel aiming towards advanced cubers. I honestly see the audience as a group of beginners who want to know a bit more about a new hobby. So for them, it will be for fun and games. Or...I could just be naive :)
 
ianography said:
The other person that helps with the final decisions is cyoubx. He has a lot of good ideas and would most likely make the channel a success. That, and also the other members haven't really been contacting me, probably because they are busy.
Also, I don't really practice 3x3 all too much, but more of 4x4 and megaminx, even though I'm quite slow at them.
Lastly, I should have made this clearer in my other post: I would be the leader until the group is established with all the members, the channel is made, we find out a schedule, etc. After that is all done, then I would pass off being the leader to somebody else.
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Sorry for not contacting you, but it doesn't really matter to me who gets in.
 
Hmm... what types of cubes do you have?

A couple of 2x2-7x7, pyraminx, megaminx, ordering square-1s and some others this week.
I am only 14, not sure if that's a dealbreaker or anything.
 
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