Dayan vs. V-Cube Patent Infringement

Stefan said:
Like which? I thought Lightake was their attempt to stay out of trouble, by only offering legal puzzles. :confused:
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Maybe they were selling other illegal stuff, not puzzles, so Popbuying moved their entire inventory over to Lightake, and they hadn't been attacked about the puzzles yet? Just a theory.
 
I found it odd that you didn't ban kastellorizo.

I was trying to steer the conversation towards actual V Cubes discussion.

Anyway, my infractions list is now two pages long :3
 
DavidWoner said:
There is an infractions tab on your user profile.
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Can't see one, neither in my profile nor my settings. Guess I really just don't have any.

UnAbusador said:
It always shocked me seeing the Gear Cube KO offered at 1/3 of the price AND the legit one a few pages later... just an example.
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Yes, I agree that it's copied, but is it illegal?
 
I don't really know where I stand on this. Perhaps the V-Cube company believes that there are legitimate similarities, or maybe they are just trying to remove the Guhong from the 3x3 market. There could quite possibly be another reason. But instead of taking sides and boycotting products, shouldn't we just wait for the information to be released?
 
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Right now we're waiting to see if Verdes Innovation did in fact have a court order prior to filing the patent infringement claim on eBay listings. I'm not sure how long it takes to obtain a court order... maybe months.

If Verdes Innovations does or did not have a court order on the puzzles they claim is copied, then they're in for some trouble.
 
nickvu2 said:
Not to discount the crappiness of the situation, but assuming Guhongs get discontinued, isn't it reasonable to expect Dayan to tweak the design and release a new cube?
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Of course, they're always tweaking designs (this is the alleged problem). The ones that they deem good go into mass production. Some are good, and some are bad, and sometimes it just comes down to personal preference. A few months ago the A5 was "the cube" and now it's the Dayan Guhong. I don't doubt that they'll continue mass producing different cubes.

The beauty of VeRO is that you can submit a complaint stating that someone is infringing upon your copyright (or IP) without actually having any evidence and eBay will simply remove your item or suspend your account. It doesn't take much for Verdes to have your items removed or account suspended, just persistence. So why are they doing this?

Well, based on their actions they believe that it infringes upon their rights. But there are many other reasons, one being: just because anyone can do this to another seller.

I could fraudulently submit complaints on behalf of Verdes through VeRO to have other items removed and you'd blame them for it (not that I did). :-P

Tim.
 
i didn't go through every post here, so if it was ninja'd, just leave it

from a random seller who received the reply from paypal:
1. no big cubes (6x6, 7x7, 9x9, 11x11) except V cube are allowed
2. Guhong and Lingyun are not allowed
 
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HavoCentral said:
Considering you hold some records in the 6x6 and 7x7 events, since when have they not been official? I see them listed as events at nationals. I see them listed on the MOA's site as unofficial events. Considering the WCA delegate and event organizer is the US V-Cube representative, I have a few questions.
Doesn't the event organizer pick the events? Why would you go through the trouble of having an event/s (6x6 and 7x7) yet not make it/them official?
It makes no sense so I would like someone to explain that?

It is a V-Cube sponsored competition, Does anyone know if they even tried to get the 6 and 7 events made official?
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Stop being so blatantly ignorant. When you don't know what you are talking about, it makes sense to just stop talking.

Originally, 6x6 and 7x7 were official events at MoA. The decision was made by parties involved (not V-Cubes) to not make them official in a vain attempt to send a message to V-Cubes. This is the post Tyson made announcing this decision, and as you can see, it is after the original competition announcement. The event organizer is not the US V-Cube rep, it is mainly being organized by Bryan Logan, who has much more experience organizing competitions. I am actually quite dissatisfied with the decision by others to remove 6x6 and 7x7 as official events, as I would love to actually get results in those puzzles, but instead of hurting V-Cubes with the decision, it hurts me the competitor.

Please start reading the forum for facts about what happens in the world instead of just coming up with random scenarios which don't exist. You seem to constantly concoct these ridiculous assumptions about how things are happening, and they are entirely wrong most of the time.
 
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