Dayan vs. V-Cube Patent Infringement

[Kirjava]

Same applies to you.

No it doesn't, I never claimed I would stop posting.

Seriously though, at least I am trying to explain some things.

Not to me. I asked you some valid questions.

What is the purpose of your post? Attacking me won't achieve much except making you look immature.

I'm pointing out how immature you are being. I think I've passed the point now on this forum where I'd have to worry about people thinking I am immature. XD

 

[kastellorizo]

No it doesn't, I never claimed I would stop posting.
Not to me. I asked you some valid questions.
I'm pointing out how immature you are being. I think I've passed the point now on this forum where I'd have to worry about people thinking I am immature. XD

This is your *opinion* against *facts*.

Am I being asked questions? YES.
Will I stop answering if people stop asking me? YES.
Are you being asked anything? NO
Are you being sarcastic? YES
Is there any contribution to clearing up things from your post? NO
Based on the above, can you see the difference from being mature and immature? NO

I rest my case.

 

[Kirjava]

This is *your* opinion against facts.

What facts?

Am I being asked questions? YES.
Will I stop answering if people stop asking me? YES.
Are you being asked anything? NO
Are you being sarcastic? YES
Is there any contribution to clearing up things from your post? NO
Based on the above, can you see the difference from being mature and immature? NO

This is all very cute and everything, but I'm perfectly free to ask my own questions and request that you answer them.

Also where was I sarcastic lol?

EDIT;

Just a reminder - here's the post I want you to reply to if you actually want to discuss the issue with me instead of talking about drama.

Unless, you want to carry on ignoring me when I actually want to discuss something constructive.

 

[kastellorizo]

What facts?



This is all very cute and everything, but I'm perfectly free to ask my own questions and request that you answer them.

Also where was I sarcastic lol?

You see? You do not even realise you are posting sarcastic comments or photos
(the photo you posted was the epitome of sarcasm)

 

[Kirjava]

sarcastic comments

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

[kastellorizo]

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

So what was the reason you posted it, to amuse me?
I am sorry but the existence of sarcasm mainly depends on how the recipient feels, not the sender.

 

[Kirjava]

(the photo you posted was the epitome of sarcasm)

You claimed that you would stop posting then you carried on posting anyway.

I don't see how it's possible for a statement that is true to be sarcastic.

And again,

Just a reminder - here's the post I want you to reply to if you actually want to discuss the issue with me instead of talking about drama.

Unless, you want to carry on ignoring me when I actually want to discuss something constructive.

 

[Kirjava]

I am sorry but the existence of sarcasm mainly depends on how the recipient feels, not the sender.

Ahahaha are you serious? I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. XD

 

[Wickex]

So what was the reason you posted it, to amuse me?
I am sorry but the existence of sarcasm mainly depends on how the recipient feels, not the sender.

No offense bro, but I don't think you know what sarcasm means.
A statement like "It's nice weather today" when it's raining is an example of sarcasm. You saying you're going to stop posting and him replying with an image telling you that you're still posting is not sarcasm, it's more like a fact. If it were to be sarcastic it would've been something like "Finally, he stopped posting".

Also, the "existence of sarcasm" mainly depends on how the sender feels, not the recipient. The sender is making the sarcastic statement, not the recipient.

Again, I'm just trying to teach you something, not trying to be offensive here.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Moreover, I am not the one who is lying here [...] And pictures? It is amazing you still asking them after all this ordeal.

The "arguing" part was me explaining to you the same thing in *different* ways, and providing you with
photos, something I *also* was *not* obliged to do for my opinion (see below my explanation
for my role/job).

Could you make up your mind if you have sent me pictures or not?

There is only one video at the beginning of this thread, and there is a comparison of the pieces for which I am refering my opinion. If you
still cannot realise this, do not blame me. Blame yourself.

Can you show me where you have previously mentioned (where to find) this specific video? Especially in our PMs? Every other time you mentioned this video, you never said it was the one posted in the beginning of this thread (which wasn't in the original post, by the way, it was edited in later), you just kept referring to "the video." I might also add, he mentions how the corner stalks are the same, not a conical structure. In our PMs, you mentioned a conical structure. So I ask again: Where do you see a conical structure with the GuHong? Now please notice, I didn't say "Where does Verdes Innovations see a patent infringement?" I asked you specifically what you see similar. I made that clear in my PM, but you seem to be getting confused I am asking about how it is infringing on the patent. I'm asking you for your opinion (on what you see that is similar), which I have not yet received (although you keep mentioning how you have given me your opinion, I can agree you have said you see a similarity, but not what specifically).

 

[Stefan]

There is only one video at the beginning of this thread

Again:

I've only seen this one which doesn't contain a single insult or attempt to ridicule Verdes, and does point out a similarity (to V-5 corners, though I don't know why one would use those instead of V-3 corners). So that's definitely not the video you're talking about.

Since you're now saying that that's the video you meant, I recommend you apologize to the guys for the lies you told about them.

no one (including you) could not understand I had nothing to do with the action.

Nah, that was clear (assuming you didn't really mean that no-not double negative there).

Public frustration on the (unrelated to me) action was leaning towards me
because of that misunderstanding.

Can't speak for everyone, but for me, you were the main nuisance. Has to do with you coming here and telling lies from the get-go.

 

[peedu]

Hey, let's give the guy a break.

He lacks english skills, he can't make heads or tails if he is a spokesman of V-cubes or not, he can't decide if he knows something about it or does not.

V-cubes reputation went down a lot in my eyes and I'm not even sure who was behind all that. Now I will just put the V-cubes reputation back up there where it was, before Kastellorizo started to drag it down. At least until more information will be available.


Peedu

 

[Whyusosrs?]

A statement like "It's nice weather today" when it's raining is an example of sarcasm.

But I like rainy weather...

Thom, I wonder if kastellorizo knows who aki is?

Has an official v-cubes rep said anything anywhere about this whole ordeal yet?

 

[TimMc]

Have you considered using an alternative to eBay and PayPal?

Hi Merchants,

There have been so many personal attacks and insults thrown about in this thread. We saw PayPal, MasterCard, and VISA attacked in the past couple of weeks for suspending WikiLeaks' account. Now they're forcing merchants to stop selling products that allegedly infringe upon patents without a court order.

You can complain about whether it's righteous or not for Verdes Innovations S.A. to get eBay to remove an item that allegedly infringes upon their patent without any evidence but it's just not going to change the fact that there's nothing to prevent others from abusing eBay's system by submitting more patent infringement notices on behalf of Verdes Innovations S.A. just to screw with other sellers!

To fight Verdes you now have to fight eBay and PayPal because you put them between yourself and the customer. So why not use an alternative method of payment where transactions are subject to the law and not hearsay? :fp

Tim.

P.S. I'm a fan of Dayan and Verdes. I just think it's stupid to complain about people using a system to screw you over when it's the system that should be fixed or avoided.

 

[kastellorizo]

Since you're now saying that that's the video you meant, I recommend you apologize to the guys for the lies you told about them..

I recommend for *you* to apologise for fueling the arguments especially when I was called insults.
I regard you as one of them since I am sure you were enjoying this

As for speaking for "anyone here", please. There are many who had different view.
Just like you don't care about my opinion, I don't care about yours.

And I will REPEAT again. The video *DID* have insults but were REMOVED.
(and I have mentioned this TWICE!)

So in the end, the whole thing has become an arithmetic issue (twice, fifth etc)

 

[kastellorizo]

Hey, let's give the guy a break.

He lacks english skills, he can't make heads or tails if he is a spokesman of V-cubes or not, he can't decide if he knows something about it or does not.

V-cubes reputation went down a lot in my eyes and I'm not even sure who was behind all that. Now I will just put the V-cubes reputation back up there where it was, before Kastellorizo started to drag it down. At least until more information will be available.


Peedu

Or others lack communication skill. Just as a note, most of the participants
(not you) had terrible grammar and syntax errors. But hey, who am to speak?

 

[kastellorizo]

Could you make up your mind if you have sent me pictures or not?

LOL you just don't get it, do you?

Fifth time:
Even if I knew (I don't) more details I wouldn't bother any more.

So could you make up *your* mind why you are expecting me to answer anything?

 

[Kirjava]

Hiiiiiiiii. You stopped talking to me when you realised that you were wrong

You could reply to this to save face though;

Just a reminder - here's the post I want you to reply to if you actually want to discuss the issue with me instead of talking about drama.

Unless, you want to carry on ignoring me when I actually want to discuss something constructive.

 

[kastellorizo]

Ahahaha are you serious? I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. XD

So in your opinion, if the recipient does not feel amused is not sarcasm? LOL

In the end of the day, your photo was insulting, and your intention was to insult. And this is the whole point.
If your intention was otherwise, you would have tried to help calm things down. Instead, you wanted to escalate things again.

Oh wait, now I understand, you were upset because you were being ignored and wanted attention! (you stated that, not me)

Sixth time: Initially I wanted to share things, and after the insults I don't. So stalking me won't add any new knowledge to this public chat.

 

[Kirjava]

So in your opinion, if the recipient does not feel amused is not sarcasm? LOL

No. Looks like you don't understand what I said.

In the end of the day, your photo was insulting, and your intention was to insult. And this is the whole point.
If your intention was otherwise, you would have tried to help things calm down. Instead, you wanted to escalate things again.

No, I want your attention. You will only reply to things that are drama related. This is trolling. Why do you refuse to discuss VCubes and instead wish to just revel in annoying people?

Oh wait, now I understand, you were upset because you were being ignored and wanted attention!

I'm not upset at all, I'm simply showing everyone else how much of a dick you're being.


If you don't want to talk about VCubes, you should stop posting.