Negative Time Solving Contest 2010

[waffle=ijm]

coffee overload O_O
downed 2 5-hour energy
I'm on my 3rd energy drink

but

not really...

 

[cmhardw]

Good luck to you too - I hope we both get 100% success!

Should we use the same scrambles then? The 4x4x4 scramble listed on the site can be for cube 1.

I don't know how many cubes you plan to do, but here are a few more scrambles we could use. I pulled these just now off of JNetcube:

2) b l2 B2 L2 U F2 r b f L l U2 L2 l2 u U f2 B d f L u' U' f2 F2 R2 B2 R L2 d2 D2 f' u r b2 D2 d' B R d
3) D2 U B' D u' R L' u2 U2 f2 B' l d' L B' d2 r2 U' B D L u' R2 F2 l d F' b U2 d2 B2 l2 L2 b B u f u2 d' r'
4) R b2 B' R u2 b2 L' B' R2 r' F2 b2 l2 f2 b R' f U' d' f2 b L2 R B' u' U' f' L2 R' U l' R' U' l' B b r' b D2 U
5) D u' b L' F' d2 b2 u2 l' L' F u2 l L' u U b2 l d' f2 B2 l r b2 D2 R B2 R' B' U u' r2 U2 R' L' f2 r F2 u R'
6) D R' U' l B2 L f B R' b2 F u f' B2 d' b B u' f' F r L b L F2 U' u l R d2 b2 f l' r b2 L2 u2 b l r2

 

[Mike Hughey]

Chris, if you want to do matching scrambles, I figure I'll use the week 45 weekly 4x4x4 speedsolve scrambles.

 

[cmhardw]

Chris, if you want to do matching scrambles, I figure I'll use the week 45 weekly 4x4x4 speedsolve scrambles.

I already did 3 of those scrambles for my competition :-s

 

[Mike Hughey]

Wow, that was amazing - we posted at the same time. When you do JNetCube scrambles, do you actually do single slice moves in the scrambles? (If I remember right, that's what JNetCube expects.) I'd rather do legal official scrambles, with wide notation, but I would prefer to match whatever scrambles you use.

 

[ninjabob7]

I'm confused. For BLD and multiBLD, do we still have to make the first move before the time change? Or does starting memorization count as "starting the solve" in this case?

 

[cmhardw]

Yeah JNetcube you should use single slice turns, or else you get shorter sequences that are turn equivalent to the scramble. WCA scrambles sound fine, if you post them I'll use them.

I'm confused. For BLD and multiBLD, do we still have to make the first move before the time change? Or does starting memorization count as "starting the solve" in this case?

MultiBLD follows standard BLD procedure which must adhere to:

B4b) The competitor must not apply moves to the puzzle before he has fully donned the blindfold.

So only the memorization must be started before the time change.

 

[Mike Hughey]

I tell you what - I hadn't realized Macky had posted the 4x4x4 scramble. Since it's in single slice notation, let's just use your scrambles above. I'm always one to prefer consistency.

And I've always counted memorization as "starting the solve". Last year I think I reported negative 21 minutes memorizing, positive 20 minutes solving, or something like that. So the solving phase isn't negative, but the overall attempt is. If you did start the solve before the time change, you'd have a positive memorization phase, but a negative solving phase. To me, either way works.

 

[Micael]

Thanks Mike, I just drink a 3 bags tea, so I will make it

I guess both of you (Mike and Chris) should do the same amount of cube, competition would be more exiting.

 

[cmhardw]

Thanks Mike, I just drink a 3 bags tea, so I will make it

I guess both of you (Mike and Chris) should do the same amount of cube, competition would be more exiting.

Micael, good luck on your multi competition with Tim!

I'm fine if Mike wants to do more cubes than me. I only really practice single BLD, so my closest equivalent to the multi I am going to try is 7x7x7 BLD. That is about my limit for 1 hour. I know from last year that I can do three 4x4x4's in about 45 minutes. All I have to do is go at a slightly quicker pace than I did last year and I should just barely manage it in 1 hour.

 

[ninjabob7]

Cool, I was planning to try a multiBLD attempt this weekend but totally forgot about DST. If I succeed, my first ever multiBLD success will be in negative time. I wonder how many people can say that? I'll only do 3 cubes since I really want to get it right, and since I only have 3 DIY's.

 

[cmhardw]

I wonder how many people can say that?

Very few indeed I would think, good luck!

 

[Lucas Garron]

Last year I think I reported negative 21 minutes memorizing, positive 20 minutes solving, or something like that. So the solving phase isn't negative, but the overall attempt is. If you did start the solve before the time change, you'd have a positive memorization phase, but a negative solving phase. To me, either way works.

Now, what would be *really* awesome is starting execution on the change. You could try to justify that memorization and execution were both positive, but together they were negative.

 

[cmhardw]

Now, what would be *really* awesome is starting execution on the change. You could try to justify that memorization and execution were both positive, but together they were negative.

Not gonna lie, that's pretty trippy

 

[vcuber13]

chris how many are you trying 3?

 

[cmhardw]

chris how many are you trying 3?

Going for four cubes. It'll probably be REALLY close, but I think I can do it in one hour. Even if I don't manage negative time, it would be pretty neat to have my only four cube 4x4x4 multi attempt be faster than my pb single cube time

 

[vcuber13]

nice, it reminds me of Dene's (i think) blindfolded 3x3 while flying over from time zone to another

 

[waffle=ijm]

just a few more minutes.
finished warming up.

 

[StachuK1992]

I have to drive at 9 tomorrow morning to get Dan to Harrisburg by 11.
This is the only reason I didn't go to bed like 3+ hours ago.

Imma be tired for driving tomorrow.

 

[cmhardw]

Good luck Mike! I have my earplugs in and earmuffs on, and I'm going to go ahead and start! Hopefully talk to you again BEFORE I send this message