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The Tier list thread

ruffleduck

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why does everyone hate 4x4?
If I want to do big cubes, then that means I want to experience the joy of center and edge building.
On 4x4, edge pairing is trivial and center building is a joke.
I view 4x4 as a watered down version of 5x5 with parities, color scheme problems, and worse hardware.

Another thing I hate about 4x4 is that ZZ cannot be easily applied to it. On 5x5+ I just do redux into ZZ but on 4x4 I'm basically forced to do Yau with CFOP unless I want to get trash times.
 

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You people are just jealous because you use bad G perm fingertricks and executions. Although I do have to admit, E perms and F perms are worthy of being tissue paper.Screen Shot 2021-06-02 at 2.01.15 PM.png
 
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You people are just jealous because you use bad G perm fingertricks and executions. Although I do have to admit, E perms and F perms are worthy of being tissue paper.View attachment 15928
It bugs me that you put the A perms and the Na perm in the same tier. A perm is one of the shortest PLLs. Na perm is the longest.
 
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It bugs me that you put the A perms and the Na perm in the same tier. A perm is one of the shortest PLLs. Na perm is the longest.
I guess @AlgoCuber uses R F U' R' U R U F' R2' F' R U R U' R' F or some other variant of it which is sooo much better than the boomer J perm setup alg everyone uses
 
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Agreed, it is just a repetitive 3x3 that is weird to hold. If you want to something similar, where you need fast look-ahead, just do 5x5
No. Just no. There's loads of creative stuff you can do with S2L which makes it different from 3x3 F2L. 5x5 is just extended 4x4 imo. (Don't get me wrong, I love watching 5x5 just as much as I love watching mega)
 
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