thelargeman2048
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I'm looking for an airy cube like a gan but without a gan price tag. Any suggestions?
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JohnnyReggae
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The RS3M 2020 is no where near a GAN. Yes it's a great budget cube and that's it.
Dayan TengYun possibly....
What thing from the GAN do you like ?
GuHong V4M is fast, strong magnets, and a weight down near the 11M.
You can also get the Rubik's SPeedCube - made by GAN, but it predates magnets.
RS3M is a solid feeling cube, weak magnets, so even heavier after adding more magnets. The RS3M is a platform that can be modified and adjusted. It is NOT that good out of the box, I think Moyu Meiling 3M is better out of the box than Moyu RS3M 2020. Lube and magnets makes the RS3M very different.
SH03L4C3
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rs3m is not really airy...
It is just like the original Gan X, but not too much like the newer releases which are more "airy"
Guhong or tengyun is a good idea
Can't we agree, that the RS3M 2020 is NOT the best cube for a beginner - at least out of box without extra magnets and lube.
Personally I think the cheaper Moyu Meilong 3M / QiYi MS are much better out of the box. They are pretty different, with the MS being the one closer to the RS3M. And the Meilong closer to GuHong V4M.
I bought 4x RS3M, sold one unopened to a colleague, have one unopened. have one stock settings, and finally I have one with 2mm N35 magnets, and the best lube job I could give it. My colleagues (another bought himself) do NOT touch the settings. One brought me his when it had become too lose. Told him to just tigthen screws. But ended up lubing it as well. And he could not recognize it, it was so much better than it had been when new.
I main the GuHong V4M (have an extra unopened), do occastionally use the GTS3M which is in the same style slightly slower turning, slightly weaker magnets. Sometimes I use the RS3M for video as it lost its sticker, and the colors are good. The GuHong is ever so slightly translucent. I have the Thunderclap V3M I use in the car, YLM at office, QiYi MS I use at home office. I use the TengYun V1 for more silent solves in front of the TV. Never really started using my TengYun V2M. The Meilong 3M in box, just used it for a few solves.
I do have something to use for comparison.
Personally I think the cheaper Moyu Meilong 3M / QiYi MS are much better out of the box. They are pretty different, with the MS being the one closer to the RS3M. And the Meilong closer to GuHong V4M.
I bought 4x RS3M, sold one unopened to a colleague, have one unopened. have one stock settings, and finally I have one with 2mm N35 magnets, and the best lube job I could give it. My colleagues (another bought himself) do NOT touch the settings. One brought me his when it had become too lose. Told him to just tigthen screws. But ended up lubing it as well. And he could not recognize it, it was so much better than it had been when new.
I main the GuHong V4M (have an extra unopened), do occastionally use the GTS3M which is in the same style slightly slower turning, slightly weaker magnets. Sometimes I use the RS3M for video as it lost its sticker, and the colors are good. The GuHong is ever so slightly translucent. I have the Thunderclap V3M I use in the car, YLM at office, QiYi MS I use at home office. I use the TengYun V1 for more silent solves in front of the TV. Never really started using my TengYun V2M. The Meilong 3M in box, just used it for a few solves.
I do have something to use for comparison.
I'm too new to understand what you are meaning in terms of feel. However I have noticed something with the RS3M 2020, the Gan 356m, and the YJ Sulong and it's lube related. I believe it's all to do with the surface area of the pieces. Using medium lube on all 3 to see the differences.
Gan, with it's honey comb has little surface area. Meaning it's going to be fast with or without lube. Relative to the others, even a medium lube is still fast. (The lube seems to last longer as well, the indents of the honeycomb keep the lube inside the puzzle nicely.)
Sulong has a flat surface area, kind of a baseline of the three. Fast without lube, and the lube acts exactly as described. Medium lube is medium. It's slower than in the Gan, but faster than in the RS3M 2020. (The lube does not last as long, it kind of leaks out in all directions, and ends up on the stickers.)
RS3M 2020 has grooves. Meaning it has the most surface area of the 3. Fast without lube, but when lube is added, because of so much surface area, there is more lube that interacts with the pieces. It kind of multiplies the effect of the lube. The medium lube acts like a heavier lube. (The lube lasts the longest in this puzzle I found. The grooves keep the lube in the puzzle very well.)
Of course this may not be perfect as there are variables that are not considered, such as magnet strength. But I found it interesting enough to share when deciding on a cube.
The reason I'm mentioning this, is that I heard the RS3M 2020, is as good as a Gan. So I had to try it. Out of the box I liked it, but it needed tuning. After tuning it, I found I hated the spring noise. So I lubed it and immediately regretted it, because I have no fast lubes, and now it's as slow as mollasses. One drop of medium, felt like I added honey to it.
Also the Gan 356 M is a Gan cube without the Gan price. Mine was half the price of the 11 M Pro.
Gan, with it's honey comb has little surface area. Meaning it's going to be fast with or without lube. Relative to the others, even a medium lube is still fast. (The lube seems to last longer as well, the indents of the honeycomb keep the lube inside the puzzle nicely.)
Sulong has a flat surface area, kind of a baseline of the three. Fast without lube, and the lube acts exactly as described. Medium lube is medium. It's slower than in the Gan, but faster than in the RS3M 2020. (The lube does not last as long, it kind of leaks out in all directions, and ends up on the stickers.)
RS3M 2020 has grooves. Meaning it has the most surface area of the 3. Fast without lube, but when lube is added, because of so much surface area, there is more lube that interacts with the pieces. It kind of multiplies the effect of the lube. The medium lube acts like a heavier lube. (The lube lasts the longest in this puzzle I found. The grooves keep the lube in the puzzle very well.)
Of course this may not be perfect as there are variables that are not considered, such as magnet strength. But I found it interesting enough to share when deciding on a cube.
The reason I'm mentioning this, is that I heard the RS3M 2020, is as good as a Gan. So I had to try it. Out of the box I liked it, but it needed tuning. After tuning it, I found I hated the spring noise. So I lubed it and immediately regretted it, because I have no fast lubes, and now it's as slow as mollasses. One drop of medium, felt like I added honey to it.
Also the Gan 356 M is a Gan cube without the Gan price. Mine was half the price of the 11 M Pro.
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Dayan Tengyun, Gan 356 M, or even a Dayan Guhong V3 for a budget option. I'm a Dayan fan now
EngiNerdBrian
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I vote for the Dayan GuHong V4 in this category. It’s like and airy like gan cubes and does sort of have that paper like feeling which I think feels similar to GAN. Lots of people where comparing the guhong v4 to the 11M pro when it came out so that’s validation of the recommendation also.
Kaiju_cube
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Don't overlook the 356 M Lite, it's $30 and (imo) one of the best Gan cubes. I've bought 3 of them now because they just work great out of the box, no need to adjust anything.
it's Gan, it's magnetic, it works great, turns smooth, etc etc. And you can get the black internals if you're interested in that. The Duo is just white.
LBr
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I think it would be safer to at least try either the Monster Go Magnetic of the MS3-V1M, because they have links to gan and would probably feel similar
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So I was thinking about getting the Aosu WRM, but is the Ambition better?
DNF_Cuber
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I've been thinking similarly, but I was also wondering how the ambition compares to my current main the MGC.
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I main the Valk 4, and the middle magnets are just wayyy too strong for me, and it’s too slow, so I need something new.
qwr
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'm not a stickler about internals color although the sticker less with black internals GAN look is iconic.
Kaiju_cube
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I really like when it's stickered and the internal plastic is white but the external plastic is black.
idk why but I think that just looks so cool.
MGC, Shengshou Mr M, Dayan,.. a lot of cubes these days have that look. They're insta-buys for me,.... I'm weak!
Black external and colored internals I always want to get. My Gan infinity I got with purple internals and black external.
idk why but I think that just looks so cool.
MGC, Shengshou Mr M, Dayan,.. a lot of cubes these days have that look. They're insta-buys for me,.... I'm weak!
Black external and colored internals I always want to get. My Gan infinity I got with purple internals and black external.
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ruffleduck
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Yeah I'm seriously considering getting a stickered Tengy V1 just because it looks so gorgeous. And I love the feel of Tengyun cubes.
qwr
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Oh yeah, my Little Magic 2x2, a $5 budget 2x2, has that look and it's cool. The cube has a very smooth turning and would feel much more premium if the plastic weren't so thin and creaky.
Kaiju_cube
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thin and creaky is my Gan 251M 2x2, lol. It feels so hollow and brittle I don't like it.
I like the Qiyi and MGC 2x2 magnetics I got a lot more. A Lot more.
I like the Qiyi and MGC 2x2 magnetics I got a lot more. A Lot more.
LBr
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From what i've seen on yt, the mgc is a fast cube, especially when compared to the valk, so it may be the best option for you.
