Duncan Bannon
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Lots of super good points for both sides in this thread.
At the highest level of cubing, the difference between a +2 and a DNF are minimal. If you get a +2, its almost guaranteed to be your worst solve, and thus be taken out. (If you have examples of times where a record was set with a +2 not being the slowest solve, show me, I'm curious to see). Personally I feel keeping the highest end cubers happy is the most important, and looking through their eyes (which is hard for a slow person like me :0 ) I don't see them minding a change that much.
As for middle "class" cubers, most of them would prefer it stay the way it is, simply because DNF averages really suck. As well as the fact that getting a +2 doesn't ruin their averages most often.
For slower cubers, I really don't think they would care too much.
As for the running of comps, making it a DNF would make comps easier to run (slightly). Its easier to explain to first time cubers that anything over 45 degrees is a DNF. Also, for parents that judge, figuring out how to properly write a +2 can be tricky, besides the fact that often you have to write tiny to fit all the info in, making it harder for the people to input times.
As for purposely +2ing for feet, I'm with Aerma, the people who do this aren't fast enough to set a significant record, and so I don't really see a problem with it. In fact, there are regs saying that it is illegal to slow down your solve on purpose, so if a +2 is faster than making that turn. it would technically against the regs not to get the +2. Weird point, but not an awful one to make.
For blind, personally getting a +2 in blind would make me feel like I cheated, as I feel like I didn't really solve it blindfolded.
From the non cuber perspective, a solved cube or a not solved cube is easier to understand, and as/if cubing becomes more of a spectator sport, having this distinction could be important. However, really, we should be focused on whats best for our community.
A follow up question comes after this. Should anything after 15 seconds of inspection become a DNF then?
Would love some feedback on my points!
At the highest level of cubing, the difference between a +2 and a DNF are minimal. If you get a +2, its almost guaranteed to be your worst solve, and thus be taken out. (If you have examples of times where a record was set with a +2 not being the slowest solve, show me, I'm curious to see). Personally I feel keeping the highest end cubers happy is the most important, and looking through their eyes (which is hard for a slow person like me :0 ) I don't see them minding a change that much.
As for middle "class" cubers, most of them would prefer it stay the way it is, simply because DNF averages really suck. As well as the fact that getting a +2 doesn't ruin their averages most often.
For slower cubers, I really don't think they would care too much.
As for the running of comps, making it a DNF would make comps easier to run (slightly). Its easier to explain to first time cubers that anything over 45 degrees is a DNF. Also, for parents that judge, figuring out how to properly write a +2 can be tricky, besides the fact that often you have to write tiny to fit all the info in, making it harder for the people to input times.
As for purposely +2ing for feet, I'm with Aerma, the people who do this aren't fast enough to set a significant record, and so I don't really see a problem with it. In fact, there are regs saying that it is illegal to slow down your solve on purpose, so if a +2 is faster than making that turn. it would technically against the regs not to get the +2. Weird point, but not an awful one to make.
For blind, personally getting a +2 in blind would make me feel like I cheated, as I feel like I didn't really solve it blindfolded.
From the non cuber perspective, a solved cube or a not solved cube is easier to understand, and as/if cubing becomes more of a spectator sport, having this distinction could be important. However, really, we should be focused on whats best for our community.
A follow up question comes after this. Should anything after 15 seconds of inspection become a DNF then?
Would love some feedback on my points!