Hawaiian Kociemba 3x3x3 TUTORIAL - Method of Michael H.

[JRKyewbs]

My gmail is [email protected] hangouts or email is fine thanks!

I just added you on Google Hangouts.

 

[shadowslice e]

So the method has proven to be efficient, great job!

Interesting would be a test of using it in a speedsolve though, because recognition may or may not be good.

I wouldn't say it has been proven to be efficient yet. I think we need to try it on some more random scrambles.

I will admit it looks promising though.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

I wouldn't say it has been proven to be efficient yet. I think we need to try it on some more random scrambles.

I will admit it looks promising though.

I agree, I'll have some more example solves up later today.

 

[JTWong71]

I will be trying this method out as a speed solving method to see fast it can be.
And with the solves we have up at the moment, they either have only edges or corners to swap for HKPLL

Random Solve:

First Attempt...
y' x //Inspection
U2 r U' r U r //EO Arrow
U' R U R L' U2 L' U R U' L' U2 L' //2x2x3 + Influence on Right Pairs
R' U R' //F2L-1 Edge
U2 F U R U' R' U R U2 R' U' R U R' F'//COLL
y U M2 U M' U2 M U M U2 M //L5E

 

[AlexMaass]

i need to learn zz eo so i can properly use pure HK

i got 13.91 with a petrus variant of hawaiian kociemba, and also this ao12
Generated By csTimer on 2016-4-3
avg of 12: 18.64

Time List:
21.96, 18.09, 17.22, 18.64, 20.32, 20.83, (25.27), 16.36, 19.11, 17.64, (14.39), 16.20


the variant is this: instead of f2l eo at the start, petrus block, solve the 2 f2l pairs without the last cross edge, coll, m slices for eo, and then hawaiian l5e

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

i need to learn zz eo so i can properly use pure HK

i got 13.91 with a petrus variant of hawaiian kociemba, and also this ao12
Generated By csTimer on 2016-4-3
avg of 12: 18.64

Time List:
21.96, 18.09, 17.22, 18.64, 20.32, 20.83, (25.27), 16.36, 19.11, 17.64, (14.39), 16.20


the variant is this: instead of f2l eo at the start, petrus block, solve the 2 f2l pairs without the last cross edge, coll, m slices for eo, and then hawaiian l5e

Nice did you learn EHKPLLs?

 

[AlexMaass]

Nice did you learn EHKPLLs?

yeah I used the list of algs i made, also i might just switch to using cfop for building the 2x3x3, though that may just still be HK petrus

im not sure if doing eo arrow instead of this would be better, i'll have to find out

 

[Cale S]

more random examples

attempt 3

attempt 4

attempt 5

 

[gyroninja]

This makes the last layer only use 14 algorithms, beating ZZ-R, DRASTICALLY improving recognition, and takes the cake for fewest number of algs for 2LLL.

Well zz-d has fewer algs when using a 2LLL. It has only 11 compared to the 14 your variation requires.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

more random examples

attempt 3

attempt 4

attempt 5

Nice thanks for these!

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Well zz-d has fewer algs when using a 2LLL. It has only 11 compared to the 14 your variation requires.

ZZ-D requires setup. 14 still is very good.

 

[Cale S]

cool 34 STM solve

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

cool 34 STM solve

Do you plan on switching?

 

[JTWong71]

Just got a 33 STM or 34 HTM Solve:

x2 y //Inspection
D L F' U S2 D2 f z //2x2x3
U R' f U R U' f' U R' U R' //F2L-1 Edge + EO
U R2 D' R U' R U R' D R' U' D' R2 D R' //Last 5 Pieces

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Just got a 33 STM or 34 HTM Solve:

x2 y //Inspection
D L F' U S2 D2 f z //2x2x3
U R' f U R U' f' U R' U R' //F2L-1 Edge + EO
U R2 D' R U' R U R' D R' U' D' R2 D R' //Last 5 Pieces

Awesome! I think it's safe to say this is a great FMC method as well.

 

[JTWong71]

Yeah, looks like it.
I'm surprised by the results of this method.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Yeah, looks like it.
I'm surprised by the results of this method.

Me too, I created this mostly as just a theory...

 

[JTWong71]

Somewhat representing a "Petrus" variation:

x2 //Inspection
U R2 B R2 U2 R' D //2x2x3
y' R U2 f' U f U R //F2L-1 Edge
U R U2 R' U2 R' F R2 U R' U' F' //HKOLLCP
R' U2 R2 U R U R U' R U' R' //HKEPLL

37 HTM/STM

Another 37 HTM/STM

y x' //Inspection
D' F' L B L2 U F' //2x2x3
U' F R2 F' //EO + 1 Pair
R U' R2 U R2 U //F2L-1E
x2 z' R U R' U R U r' F R' F' r //HKOLLCP
R U R' U' R' U' R' U R //HKEPLL

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Somewhat representing a "Petrus" variation:

x2 //Inspection
U R2 B R2 U2 R' D //2x2x3
y' R U2 f' U f U R //F2L-1 Edge
U R U2 R' U2 R' F R2 U R' U' F' //HKOLLCP
R' U2 R2 U R U R U' R U' R' //HKEPLL

37 HTM/STM

Another 37 HTM/STM

y x' //Inspection
D' F' L B L2 U F' //2x2x3
U' F R2 F' //EO + 1 Pair
R U' R2 U R2 U //F2L-1E
x2 z' R U R' U R U r' F R' F' r //HKOLLCP
R U R' U' R' U' R' U R //HKEPLL

So many examples... Can someone make a Google doc of all these please? Thanks for posting this!

 

[AlexMaass]

Generated By csTimer on 2016-4-3
avg of 5: 16.09

Time List:
16.18, 15.65, (15.42), 16.43, (21.66)

done on cam with petrus variant (probably what JTWong showed previously), I can't do pure HK because I don't know zz :/

I'll upload the video right now