Quest For Sub 10 Hawaiian Kociemba | New Directions

[Nir1213]

~1

well we better get sum moorrr

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

~1

soon to be ~2 cause ima use this for oh now

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

I’m almost sub 10, probably will be by the end of thanksgiving break, I will update then, after I get sub 10 I plan on being method neutral with HK and CFOP, as it seems easy to do and also seems best for the long run because if it only takes 1 move to insert the a cross piece at one point in the solve, it will either be the same or worse at a later point, unless you get really lucky and it goes in by itself

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

I’m almost sub 10, probably will be by the end of thanksgiving break, I will update then, after I get sub 10 I plan on being method neutral with HK and CFOP, as it seems easy to do and also seems best for the long run because if it only takes 1 move to insert the a cross piece at one point in the solve, it will either be the same or worse at a later point, unless you get really lucky and it goes in by itself

I realized that I was turning really chill in my solves, so I tried turning faster, and now I am like sub 10 half the time

 

[ProStar]

HK is actually a really interesting and cool method. What variant do you use right now, and do you plan on working on/finishing HKPLL sometime soon?

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

HK is actually a really interesting and cool method. What variant do you use right now, and do you plan on working on/finishing HKPLL sometime soon?

I do arrow with no EO, HKF2L using M moves, Insert alg I know, Insert another alg, depending on what algs I used possibly a third short alg or trigger like M’ U2 M
so my HKLL doesn’t really have a structure
As for HKPLL I have no plans, but I would like to make and learn algs eventually

 

[Nir1213]

I realized that I was turning really chill in my solves, so I tried turning faster, and now I am like sub 10 half the time

im curious whats your average right now, like around 10.50 or something?

 

[ProStar]

I do arrow with no EO, HKF2L using M moves, Insert alg I know, Insert another alg, depending on what algs I used possibly a third short alg or trigger like M’ U2 M
so my HKLL doesn’t really have a structure
As for HKPLL I have no plans, but I would like to make and learn algs eventually

How much HKOLL do you currently know?

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

How much HKOLL do you currently know?

At one point I knew over 3/4ths, but I have forgotten the sune algs by now, and I only implement algs I can recall quickly and can execute well. I’d like to proficient with all of them one day, but without HKPLL there’s not much of an advantage

im curious whats your average right now, like around 10.50 or something?

10.57

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

I’ve been doing a lot of skewb lol. It’s surprisingly fun to just grind out solves. I am averaging low 5, will probably be sub 5 if I fix my H perms and Z perms.

Edit: Skoooooooooooooooooooooooooob

 

[Deleted member 55877]

fix my H perms and Z perms.

For H perm I use sledge y2 hedge y2 sledge
For Z perm I use this execution and alg

(not my video)

 

[DNF_Cuber]

For H perm I use sledge y2 hedge y2 sledge
For Z perm I use this execution and alg

(not my video)

For H perm I use R r' R r' y l' L l' L

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

Coming up on the 1-year anniversary of this thread, I have some thoughts on HK I’d like to share. As a method, I think that it is best used as an extension to others, as a choose your own hybrid. Like in Roux, after F2B if DB is easy(or any M slice edge which can be put in DB with an M slice for different HKLL recog) one can solve it and use HK techniques for the rest of the solve. In CFOP HK is great for misoriented 3-move inserts to the front(like r U r’) and can be used quite well in conjunction with f inserts to the back. The open slot in DF also allows for more freedom while still retaining good visibility. It allows for amazing M move paring tricks as well. EO can be done well at the beginning as well as the end of the solve. It has countless variants with alg ranges from under 10 to 1LHKLL I guess.

The Future of This Thread:
I am putting my quest for speed on hiatus, I still want to average sub 10, and with more practice, I'm sure I will, but I have other plans for now. I am going to be doing a "Month of" type thing, but with HK application to other methods, e.g., Hawaiian Roux, Hawaiian CFOP, etc.

The Future of My Solves:
I plan on being more method neutral with Hawaiian CFOP and CFOP(doing cross if it is easy and gives a good F2L), maybe experimenting with EO and pEO at the beginning

The Future of My Youtube Channel:
I don't plan on making videos any time soon, maybe I'll start again in the summer

The Future of My Website:
Also on hiatus, may start again in the summer, HKPLL looks quite intimidating to gen, maybe I'll gen some smaller sets before then

 

[brododragon]

happy birthday, and a merry new year

i have
NHIE turned a cube owned by someone else

also random quote i have stored, enjoy

 

[zed zed]

Hmm am I the only HK user now