Method proposal week 1: Pikas**t

[Cool Frog]

The movecount is rather low and the recognition is mostly just petrus. The weirdest step is LSE, but that recognition isn't THAT bad. I am not very surprised by the successful times by Ranzha.

I might be able to post an average of 5 if you want, but it might be some time before I am able to post it (I am moving out of my current house and travel and college)

Playing around with the method delivers some interesting alternatives to LSE.

 

[Renslay]

This method is painful as hell. I like Noah's CP2 much more.

 

[Cool Frog]

This method is painful as hell. I like Noah's CP2 much more.

Until someone makes a decent CP recognition system for non-standard cases, it is going to be a pretty meh method. This method's LSE recognition is bad, yes, but not unfeasible.

 

[Ranzha]

Method overview.

 

[Shiv3r]

I can't find a decent tutorial anywhere for this method. Just the LSE is all I need

 

[YouCubing]

holy crap this thread is old

 

[shadowslice e]

I can't find a decent tutorial anywhere for this method. Just the LSE is all I need

Essentially, you use a load of 3-cycles to solve the LSE as there isn't a nice intuitive way to solve them like Roux LSE. I'll be surprised if you can find a tutorial as this method never caught on and is not really as good as Roux/CFOP/ZZ because it has a variable last step that can't be done intuitively.

holy crap this thread is old

It's not that old... Some of the threads bumped are from 2009...

Though I agree that threads older than a year shouldn't really be bumped.

 

[Ranzha]

I've found that a really effective way to go about LSE in this method is to solve pseudoRouxLSE using a few set-ups, and noting orientation.

 

[Shiv3r]

I may switch to this method(probably only for OH)
because:
-I use petrus for OH right now
-I always get help up on the EO and the LL algs. (C+OP is actually REALLLY fast once you get used to it-- I solve the pair while tracking the one corner)
-I can execute OH LSE faster than any LL alg

what do you think?

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

I may switch to this method(probably only for OH)
because:
-I use petrus for OH right now
-I always get help up on the EO and the LL algs. (C+OP is actually REALLLY fast once you get used to it-- I solve the pair while tracking the one corner)
-I can execute OH LSE faster than any LL alg

what do you think?

You forgot about M/S moves. Try and execut them with one hand.
If your want a reliable method that you want to use for both 2H and OH, just switch to ZZ. Seriously. (Not saying this one is bad)

 

[TDM]

You forgot about M/S moves. Try and execut them with one hand.
If your want a reliable method that you want to use for both 2H and OH, just switch to ZZ. Seriously. (Not saying this one is bad)

M moves aren't bad at all OH. In my experience Roux has been better for OH than ZZ.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

M moves aren't bad at all OH. In my experience Roux has been better for OH than ZZ.

How do you do M moves then? (Just curious because in my experience they are like impossible)

 

[TDM]

How do you do M moves then? (Just curious because in my experience they are like impossible)

I use GuRoux's fingertricks.

 

[adimare]

I use GuRoux's fingertricks.

OH+T, IMO that shouldn't be allowed, mainly because it looks terrible. The same applies to banging the cube on the table to get it aligned.

 

[TDM]

OH+T, IMO that shouldn't be allowed, mainly because it looks terrible. The same applies to banging the cube on the table to get it aligned.

I don't think something looking terrible is a good enough reason to not allow it

 

[Shiv3r]

OH+T, IMO that shouldn't be allowed, mainly because it looks terrible. The same applies to banging the cube on the table to get it aligned.

I don't think something looking terrible is a good enough reason to not allow it

the rules specifically state that the only things the cube is allowed to touch are one hand and the table.
(pretty much however a one-armed person would go around it the fastest)

 

[StachuK1992]

I don't think something looking terrible is a good enough reason to not allow it

Yeah, I would have been banned by now if this were a rule.

 

[abunickabhi]

M moves aren't bad at all OH. In my experience Roux has been better for OH than ZZ.

This point is proved perfectly 7 years later.

 

[DuckubingCuber347]

This point is proved perfectly 7 years later.

This point was "proved" when Kian got the WR five years ago lol.

 

[Maddoxer]

holy crap this thread is old

11 years old now