zeus
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I am the same as you. i use 2look OLL and full PLL (except that N!!....N=A+T
) but i get good times. i even avg 14 by 2 look. so it all depends on your own but the general advice is: LEARN THEM ALL....
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I'm sure some people can get sub20 even. I know you've heard this a ton, but the important part is F2L.
Just realised I've made a mistake in the title.. It should read 2-look OLL - do I need full PLL?
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Hi. I have a question about 2-look PLL. Apologies if it has been asked before but I have googled and searched the forum and haven't found anything that answers my question.
Anyway, here goes...
I am going to learn 1L-PLL but I figured I have got to learn all the algs, so I may as well learn the ones which will let me do 2L-PLL first.
So I have looked at a few sites and for 1L-PLL there are 4 algs for switching edges and 3 for switching corners. So far so good.
However, there seem to be a number of PLL cases which I can't solve in 2 looks using these 7 algs, for example Na and Nb.
So my question is this: is it possible to solve all 21 cases, in 2 looks, using the 7 algs, or have I misunderstood what 2 look PLL means.
As Na and Nb are not 'symmetrical' I can see any way of solving them using those 7 algs, no matter how many looks I use (and certainly not in 2).
/that should say look not loop
Thanks for the reply! I'm glad to hear it is actually possible to do all cases with the 7 (or 6!) algs.
I got a bit confused as I have found several sites that are supposed to show how to do 2L-PLL, but they only show you 2 algs, and say you might have to do them more than once each (which didn;t make a lot of sense to me).
Thanks for the reply! I'm glad to hear it is actually possible to do all cases with the 7 (or 6!) algs.
I got a bit confused as I have found several sites that are supposed to show how to do 2L-PLL, but they only show you 2 algs, and say you might have to do them more than once each (which didn;t make a lot of sense to me).
You can solve any PLL with only 2-algs but you have to usually do them more than once. So that's not really 2-look PLL...
you can do 2 look PLL using 6 algorithims actually but it is not reccomended for speedcubing, R' F R' B B R F' R' B B R F R U' and R' F R' B B R F' R' B B R F R U' Ui R' F R' B B R F' R' B B R F R U' and M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2 and M2 U M2 U M U2 M2 U2 M U2 and F2 U Ri L F2 L' R U F2 and F2 U' Ri L F2 L' R U' F2 or even 4 but that involves just knowing cases and where you will have to do it again after the first time
I learned 2L-OLL yesterday, and I'm learning the 7 algs for 2L-PLL today, but even with the algs on the screen in front of me, I am having trouble knowing which ones to do to get it solved in 2 looks.
Not for all cases, but some of them are quite tricky. Do you have any tips at all?
First concentrate for corners only and ignore edges. Look for 2 same colored corner stickers on one side for easy recognition (again IGNORE those edge stickers). If you don't have 2 of the same colored corner stickers you have diagonal swap (do Y-perm). If you find 2 same colored stickers you have adjacent swap. So you put those stickers to the left side and do T-perm. Now you are only left with edge case which should be easy to recognize (Ua (3-cycle), Ub (another 3-cycle), H (all edges opposite) or Z (all edges adjacent))
you need Ua, Ub, H and Z. Don't learn Aa, Ab and E. Learn either Aa, Ab or T, and then learn Y. I would suggest learning T because although it's longest, it makes learning Y (which is even longer) much easier.Are Y-perm and T-perm required for 2-look PLL? Cubewhiz says you just need Ua, Ub, H, Z Aa, Ab and E.
Is that right, or is it better to learn other algs.