Best spring swap mods

cube-o-holic said:
Oh noes. I'm making 2 AoShi Illusions so have to do it twice. Did you try loosening off the tensions a lot? On the AoChuang I loosened every side by 2 full turns before I could get the 1st 1/8th together without an explosion.
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Well. This would have been useful information before I broke my aoshi :(

Will try when (if) I order a replacement part
 
guysensei1 said:
Tried swapping it to Dayan springs, I ended up setting the tensions a little too tight and I couldn't even fit my screwdriver in to loosen it. So I tried popping out some pieces and broke an oblique. [insert swear word here]



Anyway, mini Shengshou 7x7 with aosu springs is good. Not sure if it's any different to SS 6x6 springs.

EDIT: the aoshi is an absolute nightmare to assemble. Seriously. Many many times I've almost had the first eighth of the cube assembled, and the whole thing just disintegrates.
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Yeah, it took me like 2.5 hours to fully reassemble (including like a half hour spent wiping out the factory lube). It was like reassembling the aosu, but much worse. Once I got the bottom four parts of the ball core in (that was 45 minutes), though, the rest of the assembly was actually pretty easy, though I had to mess with the tensions to get the last few U layer pieces in.

EDIT: if you try again, let us know how it turns out!

cube-o-holic said:
Oh noes. I'm making 2 AoShi Illusions so have to do it twice. Did you try loosening off the tensions a lot? On the AoChuang I loosened every side by 2 full turns before I could get the 1st 1/8th together without an explosion.
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For me, the trouble wasn't the pieces themselves, it was the parts of the ball core, which the Aochuang does not have. Messing with the tensions might help, though.
 
If you want a loose and fast cube without popping, buy a guanlong and change the springs to mini fangshi. I also used the washers. I lubed it with maru lube. It can also corner cut over 45, reverse is almost a full piece. Much faster than my aolong.
 
Hey all, Merry Christmas!

Today I received a SS 6x6 from my mom as a gift, and I'm actually not too worried about how it turns. It's a little stiff, but I think that could be fixed with a spring swap. I don't think I'll florian mod it.

I replaced the srpings in my SS 7x7 with Dayan springs a while ago and while it turns incredibly now it's way too loose for me. And I'm not sure if I want to put my other pair of Dayan spring in my 6x6 because I'm afraid it'll be too loose as well.

Anyone who has replaced the springs in their 7x7 or 6x6 with something other than Dayan spring, what would you recommend trying? I'm thinking Weisu soft springs or Fangshi springs (they'll probably be even softer though) and maybe Aolong springs.
 
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TraciAG said:
Hey all, Merry Christmas!

Today I received a SS 6x6 from my mom as a gift, and I'm actually not too worried about how it turns. It's a little stiff, but I think that could be fixed with a spring swap. I don't think I'll florian mod it.

I replaced the srpings in my SS 7x7 with Dayan springs a while ago and while it turns incredibly now it's way too loose for me. And I'm not sure if I want to put my other pair of Dayan spring in my 6x6 because I'm afraid it'll be too loose as well.

Anyone who has replaced the springs in their 7x7 or 6x6 with something other than Dayan spring, what would you recommend trying? I'm thinking Weisu soft springs or Fangshi springs (they'll probably be even softer though) and maybe Aolong springs.
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I put Dayan springs in my SS 6x6 and it's amazing now. It is a little bit looser, but doesn't lock up as much and is way faster.
 
TraciAG said:
What I was worried about was that the outer layers would be too loose like on my 7x7. Is it a different feel on the 6x6 w/ Dayan springs vs the 7x7?
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The layers are all pretty even on mine, in fact the outer layer is a tiny bit tighter than the inner layers. It definitely takes the stiffness and sluggishness out of the cube and it feels like a completely different cube. I haven't swapped my mini SS 7x7 springs out because the screws are too stripped to get out, otherwise I would. I would recommend trying it, but beware if you haven't assembled a SS 6x6 before, it took me like 2 hours to put back together since you can't just take the center caps off like a 7x7. So if that is worth it to you then I would try it. If you don't like it you can always switch it back too I guess. Beware that it'll make your Dayan really crappy though.
 
Rocky0701 said:
The layers are all pretty even on mine, in fact the outer layer is a tiny bit tighter than the inner layers. It definitely takes the stiffness and sluggishness out of the cube and it feels like a completely different cube. I haven't swapped my mini SS 7x7 springs out because the screws are too stripped to get out, otherwise I would. I would recommend trying it, but beware if you haven't assembled a SS 6x6 before, it took me like 2 hours to put back together since you can't just take the center caps off like a 7x7. So if that is worth it to you then I would try it. If you don't like it you can always switch it back too I guess. Beware that it'll make your Dayan really crappy though.
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I ordered my Dayan springs off of the Cubicle for like two dollars lol. And I did change the springs thanks.

A tip I would give you is the same thing I do for the SS Mini 7x7 and the SS 6x6, I just put the cube back in it's original box so that when you take apart the face to put the new springs in or whatever, the cube will stay in it's original form/not fall apart.


edit: Oh yeah PS this cube is perfect now...as I was changing the springs I also lubed the rings w/ Cubicle Speed 2 and you wouldn't even recognize it now. So smooth. I was contemplating getting an Aoshi but this will definitely be enough for me
 
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Someone once said that putting dayan springs in a Aosu will make it better. I wholeheartedly disagree.

I tried it, and yeah it was faster, but the cube got really really unstable and corner cutting was quite bad.
 
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guysensei1 said:
Someone once said that putting dayan springs in a Aosu will make it better. I wholeheartedly disagree.

I tried it, and yeah it was faster, but the cube got really really unstable and corner cutting was quite bad.
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Mine got faster and the corner cutting got better. The cube is unstable, but that's mostly due to my tensions, my 4BLD cube (also an aosu with dayan springs) is looser than it was out of the box and just as stable.
 
ViolaBouquet said:
Is there a video of the difference between a mini 7x7 with and without Dayan springs?
Do all of the layers turn faster?
Is it prone to popping or are there negatives to putting Dayan springs in a mini 7x7?
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The Mini 7x7 was barely turnable with the stock springs. All the layers are immediately better, with barely any friction after you switch to Dayan springs. If you like your tensions too loose then you might have some problems with layers catching with Dayan springs in, but if you tension it a little more the problem is eliminated. Dayan springs are an improvement in every way than the stock springs. My Mini came with rusty springs anyway

No need to bump after less than a day haha
 
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