[Help Thread] ZBLL Discussion and Help

2180161 said:
Is there a trainer for certain subsets? I thought K-sim had one but I guess I was wrong.
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What luck. I just created one today. I made a modification of qqtimer and am currently hosting it on my vps. http://gyroninja.net/timer/

Under 3x3 subsets there is a custom scramble one. If you select that you can use the textbox on the top to customize the the scrambler works. An example input for training a specific H coll subset.

|8,9,10,11|||0,1,2,3,4,5,7,6||1350|

We want to scramble edges 8,9,10, and 11.
We want our corners to be permuted where corner 6 and corner 7 are swapped
We want to have corner orientation of 1350

We get 1350 from 2(3^3))+ 1(3^4) + 2(3^5) + 1(3^6)
That pretty much translates to rotate the third corner twice, forth corner once, fifth corner twice, and sixth corner once.

For the last layer we are worried about corners 4, 5, 6, and 7. Due to some bug for corner orientation we are worried about 3, 4, 5, and 6 for some odd reason.
 
ok so I do ~175 ZBLL practice solves a day, but I am struggling to remember all the algs (i.e. I forget some of the old ones which I used to know really well). I practice a lot but I am having difficulties and its affecting my motivation. I keep thinking of the probablity issue ( each case will come up 1/494 of the time so it isn't used a lot) Thoughts people?
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but from my experience:

If you just keep at it and keep reviewing, you'll just wake up one morning and you've got it solidly placed in your memory.

You can do it! :)
 
hey dududes
I am struggling a lot with ZBLL right now.
I am forgetting algs all over the place, learning new algs takes ages. As I learn more Algs I forget more old ones. I am still a long way from the end and its already impossible. I am considering going back to CFOP
 
OLLiver said:
hey dududes
I am struggling a lot with ZBLL right now.
I am forgetting algs all over the place, learning new algs takes ages. As I learn more Algs I forget more old ones. I am still a long way from the end and its already impossible. I am considering going back to CFOP
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you're rushing it man, take a break from learning algs and just keep reviewing. It's up to you, though.
 
OLLiver said:
hey dududes
I am struggling a lot with ZBLL right now.
I am forgetting algs all over the place, learning new algs takes ages. As I learn more Algs I forget more old ones. I am still a long way from the end and its already impossible. I am considering going back to CFOP
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Don't switch to CFOP you might not know enough ZBLL but you can still use them in conjunction with COLL/EPLL.
 
peeps.
I am starting to like OH.
Unfortunately I cannot transfer my ZBLL algs to one hand. one of the curses of being a cuber-pianist is that muscle memory is how I remember all algs.
so I am wanting to learn a method for OH that gives me 1LLL (just really hate 2LLL) in less than around 200 algs? as I don't think I can be bothered relearning all ZBLL for OH haha. so what method/alg set will give me this?
like ZZLL? is that any good? or another method/alg set? give me your thoughts.
 
OLLiver said:
peeps.
I am starting to like OH.
Unfortunately I cannot transfer my ZBLL algs to one hand. one of the curses of being a cuber-pianist is that muscle memory is how I remember all algs.
so I am wanting to learn a method for OH that gives me 1LLL (just really hate 2LLL) in less than around 200 algs? as I don't think I can be bothered relearning all ZBLL for OH haha. so what method/alg set will give me this?
like ZZLL? is that any good? or another method/alg set? give me your thoughts.
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You could do WV/PLL for technically a 1LLL or the Briggs method (not B2) and just learn the 2GLL. The only other methods that I can think of are CPLS/2GLL, NCPB2.0, ZZ-porky or maybe M-CELL.
 
OLLiver said:
peeps.
I am starting to like OH.
Unfortunately I cannot transfer my ZBLL algs to one hand. one of the curses of being a cuber-pianist is that muscle memory is how I remember all algs.
so I am wanting to learn a method for OH that gives me 1LLL (just really hate 2LLL) in less than around 200 algs? as I don't think I can be bothered relearning all ZBLL for OH haha. so what method/alg set will give me this?
like ZZLL? is that any good? or another method/alg set? give me your thoughts.
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phasing + ZZLL is really easy to learn and get used to, but it's scertainly not the optimal choice for onehanded, as many of the ZZLL algs are plain bad for OH. it's a good stepping stone toward full ZBLL tho, so you could definitely start there.
 
Hi, I just got quick question.
Is it worth to know 2GLL just for 2H solving? While thinking in that time you could learn sth else like Line (or half of it), or maybe just normal OLLCPs. I really want to know what you think about it.
 
The 2GLLs, are easy because a huge percentage are just 2 sunes and are fairly easy to recog, so I think yes (only if you have really good recog).
 
4Chan said:
The 2GLLs, are easy because a huge percentage are just 2 sunes and are fairly easy to recog, so I think yes (only if you have really good recog).
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I am working on reco till few months (ROLL), today Iearned almost all T cases (I knew few before) and what is weird they adopted to solve immediately. I think I am able to learn U cases today (maybe not all, because it is quite late here). Three more questions:
-Where did you get algs for sunes and antisunes?
-Are they worth learning?
-Which stickers do you use to recognize sunes and antisunes CP? Sunes are my weakest pont, that I can't decide which reco method will be better. The one where I look for patterns on same 4 stickers or that where I look atb3 stickers, but not always same. On the other hand 3 sticker reco thing has got better angle. Just write me what do you look for?
 
Kudz said:
-Are they worth learning?
-Which stickers do you use to recognize sunes and antisunes CP? Sunes are my weakest pont, that I can't decide which reco method will be better. The one where I look for patterns on same 4 stickers or that where I look atb3 stickers, but not always same. On the other hand 3 sticker reco thing has got better angle. Just write me what do you look for?
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1. I generated them myself with cube explorer
2. I don't think those are worth learning for CFOP solvers
3. Mmmmm, I don't know how to describe it! I look for blocks of matching stickers, and I memorised the unique pattern to each case.
 
Kudz said:
I am working on reco till few months (ROLL), today Iearned almost all T cases (I knew few before) and what is weird they adopted to solve immediately. I think I am able to learn U cases today (maybe not all, because it is quite late here). Three more questions:
-Where did you get algs for sunes and antisunes?
-Are they worth learning?
-Which stickers do you use to recognize sunes and antisunes CP? Sunes are my weakest pont, that I can't decide which reco method will be better. The one where I look for patterns on same 4 stickers or that where I look atb3 stickers, but not always same. On the other hand 3 sticker reco thing has got better angle. Just write me what do you look for?
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For your third question, Sammeer M has a tutorial on it.
 
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