World Championships 2013 - Las Vegas

[Kian]

To all the people complaining about food: go to the supermarket, buy some bread and some ham. Sammich for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Total should be about $5 for the whole day.

This is certainly an option. Also, Vegas is one of the cheapest big cities in the United States if you want it to be. It's not like having to find food in New York or Chicago.

I mean it won't be Bangkok, where you could live like a king on nothing, but it's not really so bad if you're reasonable.

 

[Kirjava]

Food might be a little expensive?!

CANCEL EVERYTHING!!!

 

[cubecraze1]

Yeah lol food doesn't really matter. . . Compared to flights, transportation etc food's nothing. Especially if you're travelling overseas.

 

[Stefan]

go to the supermarket

I was there for for 11 days, went around quite a bit, did look for supermarkets and didn't find any. Not one.

 

[aronpm]

I was there for for 11 days, went around quite a bit, did look for supermarkets and didn't find any. Not one.

then how do the people who live in vegas get their food? are they hunters and gatherers or do they live off a diet of mcdonalds and 7/11 slushies?

 

[Kirjava]

one can only assume the latter. the biggest place I came across was walgreens and they didn't appear to sell bread :/

 

[Dene]

I was there for for 11 days, went around quite a bit, did look for supermarkets and didn't find any. Not one.

I'm not familiar with supermarket brands in the US, but a quick google maps search of "supermarket" when looking at Las Vegas comes up with a plethora of results.

 

[MaeLSTRoM]

I went to vegas recently, and the closest big supermarket,(A wal-mart) is about 4 miles from the riviera. It was cheap, but the distance makes it unfeasible unless you have a car. Having said that, the fast food was cheaper in vegas than some other places I've been, but still kind of bad for you to live off for however many days.

 

[Stefan]

I'm not familiar with supermarket brands in the US, but a quick google maps search of "supermarket" when looking at Las Vegas comes up with a plethora of results.

I know. But almost none of them actually are supermarkets.

 

[Dene]

I know. But almost none of them actually are supermarkets.

Improvise . Nothing wrong with a good fruit & veg shop. Instead of expensive junk food, cheap and healthy food! Win-Win, just like things should be in Vegas

 

[Ickathu]

That's easy. Learn Fridrich

Uvafan and I have only told him that fifty times before :fp

This is certainly an option. Also, Vegas is one of the cheapest big cities in the United States if you want it to be. It's not like having to find food in New York or Chicago.

I mean it won't be Bangkok, where you could live like a king on nothing, but it's not really so bad if you're reasonable.

I was trying to tell my parents how cheap Vegas is and that I could pay for it myself, but they seem to think that it's incredibly expensive...

I went to vegas recently, and the closest big supermarket,(A wal-mart) is about 4 miles from the riviera. It was cheap, but the distance makes it unfeasible unless you have a car. Having said that, the fast food was cheaper in vegas than some other places I've been, but still kind of bad for you to live off for however many days.

Yeah, I'm not too sure that you want to walk or run 4 miles down the road in Vegas with a few other teenagers...

Improvise . Nothing wrong with a good fruit & veg shop. Instead of expensive junk food, cheap and healthy food! Win-Win, just like things should be in Vegas

Food is food! But I love fresh fruits and most vegetables. I could live on that. Or I could just buy 2 loaves of bread and some peanut butter and dried food (ceral, nuts, etc) before I come and eat that.


EDIT: Will it be like nats, where the comp was held inside the same hotel as some people were staying in? If I won't actually ever have to leave the hotel my parents will be much more likely to let it happen.

 

[BlueDevil]

EDIT: Will it be like nats, where the comp was held inside the same hotel as some people were staying in? If I won't actually ever have to leave the hotel my parents will be much more likely to let it happen.

I think the comp is going to be held at the Las Vegas convention center, but some hotels (Circus Circus, Riviera, and the Wynn) are not too far away from the convention center.

 

[Stefan]

Nothing wrong with a good fruit & veg shop. Instead of expensive junk food, cheap and healthy food!

I do like healthy food. Tried to get apple sauce for my night meal for example, found one in Walgreens, only to see later that ingredient #2 was high-fructose corn syrup and #3 was corn syrup. I was like wtf-why-are-they-doing-this and wanted to return it and get one with just apples, but I couldn't find any other apple sauce anywhere.

Guess you're right and I have to improvise, not look for the healthy stuff I'm used to eating here at home. But the lack of supermarkets still pisses me off.

 

[5BLD]

Uvafan and I have only told him that fifty times before :fp



I was trying to tell my parents how cheap Vegas is and that I could pay for it myself, but they seem to think that it's incredibly expensive...

Are your parents like mine? Like once they have a decision they stick to it and say no to everything you throw at them? If it's genuinely cheap for you instead of say "but its cheap" ask "why do you think..." where they are forced to listen. I will look up if i can pay for myself, then after UKO I will ask. If i can pay, that throws "it's too expensive" out the window.

I loled when my mum today decided i should have a haircut, and to test i kept saying "but i prefer it like this its my hair", "but.." etc... Then i said "but *nonsensical mumble*" and she immediately said "no!" . Perfect example. She began giggling in an embarrassed way when I told her I didn't even actually say anything coherent.

 

[Ickathu]

Are your parents like mine? Like once they have a decision they stick to it and say no to everything you throw at them? If it's genuinely cheap for you instead of say "but its cheap" ask "why do you think..." where they are forced to listen. I will look up if i can pay for myself, then after UKO I will ask. If i can pay, that throws "it's too expensive" out the window.

I loled when my mum today decided i should have a haircut, and to test i kept saying "but i prefer it like this its my hair", "but.." etc... Then i said "but *nonsensical mumble*" and she immediately said "no!" . Perfect example. She began giggling in an embarrassed way when I told her I didn't even actually say anything coherent.

Haha thats awesome about the hair. I'm gonna try that next time .
My parents are pretty much just like that. Well, actually mostly it's my mom. If she says X to something, then the only way I can change that to Y is be getting my dad to convince her... Which sometimes works. I haven't asked them about this yet. I'm waiting to see some things from some friends first, to see if it's actually going to be possible for me to go with them (i.e., without my whole family coming) or I'm just going to wait until the "opportune moment" when they say something like, "You need to be more independant! When I was your age, my parents didn't know where I was over half the time of the summer! I paid for my own clothes, went out to eat with friends by myself" etc.
I'm sure I can pay for it, especially if I start saving now and gather up a few hundred dollars+a plane ticket.
Plus, I can always just (like I said earlier) buy some bread and canned soup before hand and just eat that if they insist on food there being expensive. I don't need any special foods for this, just as long as it's not crazy unhealthy and I get sick.

Oh, and I was looking up crime rates for Vegas, and it's actually not that bad... It's not nearly as bad as Greenville SC, Baltimore MD, or Even washington DC (used to live in those places and went downtown fairly often). Then again, if you know where to go, you're probably safe in most cities.

 

[5BLD]

or I'm just going to wait until the "opportune moment" when they say something like, "You need to be more independant! When I was your age, my parents didn't know where I was over half the time of the summer! I paid for my own clothes, went out to eat with friends by myself" etc.
I'm sure I can pay for it, especially if I start saving now and gather up a few hundred dollars+a plane ticket.
Plus, I can always just (like I said earlier) buy some bread and canned soup before hand and just eat that if they insist on food there being expensive. I don't need any special foods for this, just as long as it's not crazy unhealthy and I get sick.

Oh yes, my parents always complain like "when i was your age i had to walk x miles all by myself just to get to my school" but i had never made the connection to "you need to be more independent". I take it as a "I was worse off so you should feel bad for me that you are better off" aka in a more positives-coated way "be grateful".
Especially the bolded bit. I actually hear it from them a lot. They reply with "but it's so much more dangerous now in the cities...". So suddenly they weren't in any danger at all, and they suddenly deny the fact you should become more independent? Or am I confusing myself?
You gonna 'play the bad guy' and try to provoke them to say the line they so frequently say?

As for food, I can live on oranges and lemons and salami for many days before feeling ill. Lol. If I can convince them to let me go I'd just buy a bag of oranges and lemons and eat them throughout the day. Alternatively they'd be worried for me and actually give me money. Either way I'm happy if I can go. I can afford it though have little left. Gotta start selling food again.

 

[Ickathu]

Oh yes, my parents always complain like "when i was your age i had to walk x miles all by myself just to get to my school" but i had never made the connection to "you need to be more independent". I take it as a "I was worse off so you should feel bad for me that you are better off" aka in a more positives-coated way "be grateful".
Especially the bolded bit. I actually hear it from them a lot. They reply with "but it's so much more dangerous now in the cities...". So suddenly they weren't in any danger at all, and they suddenly deny the fact you should become more independent? Or am I confusing myself?
You gonna 'play the bad guy' and try to provoke them to say the line they so frequently say?

As for food, I can live on oranges and lemons and salami for many days before feeling ill. Lol. If I can convince them to let me go I'd just buy a bag of oranges and lemons and eat them throughout the day. Alternatively they'd be worried for me and actually give me money. Either way I'm happy if I can go. I can afford it though have little left. Gotta start selling food again.

Haha I think we have the same parents. They do contradict themselves sometimes, but not always. The other day they were saying about how they would always bike across one of the really busy roads when they were our age, but then quickly said something like, "Looking back, that was probably a really stupid idea. We're lucky we lived... It's even worse now though!" or they'll yell at me when I am walk to my friends house and am back like 10 minutes later than when they said I needed to "check in" with them. *sigh*

As for playing the 'bad guy', I've actually thought about doing that, but not like that. I was gonna have my friend ask his parents if he could go, and then if they ask if I'm going, and that becomes the deciding point - whether or not we will be with people we actually know - we can each tell our parents that the other is going, and in the end we'll both go! I should try pushing that line though... The bait is set, I'm just waiting for the right moment to spring the trap.
I think it's gonna work though...

 

[5BLD]

Haha I think we have the same parents. They do contradict themselves sometimes, but not always. The other day they were saying about how they would always bike across one of the really busy roads when they were our age, but then quickly said something like, "Looking back, that was probably a really stupid idea. We're lucky we lived... It's even worse now though!" or they'll yell at me when I am walk to my friends house and am back like 10 minutes later than when they said I needed to "check in" with them. *sigh*

*Sigh*
thats what being a teenager is: "you need to be more independent" + "you're just a kid, why do you want to do that" with a side of "you're such a typical teenager"
they contradict themselves because they try to find something that supports their point, then later realise what what they just said also entailed :/

As for playing the 'bad guy', I've actually thought about doing that, but not like that. I was gonna have my friend ask his parents if he could go, and then if they ask if I'm going, and that becomes the deciding point - whether or not we will be with people we actually know - we can each tell our parents that the other is going, and in the end we'll both go! I should try pushing that line though... The bait is set, I'm just waiting for the right moment to spring the trap.
I think it's gonna work though...

Nice that you have a friend that wants to go too. I think that that would work too. "Oh but so and so is going, why can't I" has implications "that kid is the same age as my kid and is more independent, my kid should do it too, at least they have company *continues convinces self it's okay*" etc.
As for me, my friend who cubes doesn't want to go because he thinks it's too much of a big deal to go all the way to get knocked out in the first round. I strongly disagree with the 'not fast enough idea'. It's the experience that matters. I really wanna go and meet up with the majority of fast cubers (the american cubers).

I am not sure what "bad guy" plan I have. But at UKO selkie has kindly offered to have a chat with my dad and stuff. Maybe he'll listen to someone his age. Posts on this thread as you could see had gotten me thinking though, that to go on my own would be a lot more fun (if planned well).

 

[pjk]

I was there for for 11 days, went around quite a bit, did look for supermarkets and didn't find any. Not one.

You could have taken a taxi to the supermarket, and then back. Or take a bus. Or ask around and find someone with a car - there were 3 people I knew alone that had cars who would have gladly given you a ride.

Food can be relatively cheap if you look around. As stated before, a lot of places want to make money from the casinos so they'll attract people in with cheap food and drinks.

 

[moralsh]

Although I sympathise with both of you and your quest to go to the worlds because you seem mature enough to do the trip safely and to not to do something stupid, I have to say that being a parent seems to be a way harder job than being a kid, and things often are not as simple as they seem.

However I think that the #1 concern your parents may have is your safety if money itself isn't a problem. I'd focus the discussion on showing them there is no problem, just step by step, little by little to try not to engage them in "no, because I say so" mode. just try to make them acknowledge you won't have a problem without directly asking them if you can go, I'm not sure if I make myself clear.

also @5BLD try to look really happy and enjoying at your next comp, it sure will help.