When will the 3x3 WR be broken?

[SpiderSwede]

Think about Breandan, Tomasz or even Erik what results they get in their first competitions due to their times at home. Or just think of yourself.

Tomasz's best avg12 at home is "only" 9.76 (write in his signature on Polish forum), avg5 9.17, best nonl 7.44, best lucky 6.55(?), avg100 10.93.
Adam Polkowski's home avg12 was probably 10.89 when he did avg 10.91 on Polish Open 2009.
As we can see Polish speedcubers can come close to their home avg.
But I don't know how it was when they started go (start going? - sorry for my english) on competitions.

 

[Olivér Perge]

Think about Breandan, Tomasz or even Erik what results they get in their first competitions due to their times at home. Or just think of yourself.

Tomasz's best avg12 at home is "only" 9.76 (write in his signature on Polish forum), avg5 9.17, best nonl 7.44, best lucky 6.55(?), avg100 10.93.
Adam Polkowski's home avg12 was probably 10.89 when he did avg 10.91 on Polish Open 2009.
As we can see Polish speedcubers can come close to their home avg.
Sorry for my English

Thats's all true! You missed the point: It takes time to achive that! Tomasz already had 24 competitions and Adam had 19.

And not just polish speedcubers but all others can do that. I have a few competition records which are my best ever (better then my home record) or was better then my home record at the moment i set them.

 

[Mr Cubism]

When the 3x3x3 avarage is sub-10 for the first time, that will be an epic moment in speedcubing!

Hopefully next year, but you never know.

 

[cmhardw]

What I want to happen: Rama breaks single and average WRs in the save avg. of 5.

Ok, I just need 4 PLL skips, a single LL skip and I can make your dreams come true.

Probability of that awesome average is:
5 * (215/216 * 1/72)^4 * (1/15552) ~ 1 * 10^-11

So it's possible! Rama I'll root for this crazy average for you!

Chris

 

[qqwref]

Don't get me wrong, i know he is good, but i think saying that he will break the average WR next time is a bit rash, he has only ONE better single then the average world record.

This is not a fair comparison at all. Look at Tomasz's performance at Silesia Open 2009; he did not get a single solve under the WR average even once - does that mean he is incapable of getting a WR average? Of course not

Remember, Feliks had only 10 attempts, and also averaged closer to 12 seconds at that time. But now he has done several 10.0x avg50, a few sub9.5 avg12 and sub9 (even some sub8.5) avg5, 9.58 avg12 on video, etc. I don't deny that it's very possible that he will do relatively badly in competition like some other fast cubers, but to me it looks like he tends to do pretty decently under pressure, and I think he has a definite chance at the WR (maybe not the next time, but soon).

 

[Stefan]

Piti's 3x3x3 record progression:

2009-01-08: 10.84
2009-07-18: 9.86
2009-10-09: 8.84
2009-11-28: 7.88

And those gaps are about 6, 3 and 1.5 months. Based on that, I predict it'll be Piti, with 6.86 seconds, before the end of the year

 

[Faz]

Did i miss something or Feliks is really that consistent? I know his times at home but we all know that doing the same in competition is taking for a while. Think about Breandan, Tomasz or even Erik what results they get in their first competitions due to their times at home. Or just think of yourself.

Don't get me wrong, i know he is good, but i think saying that he will break the average WR next time is a bit rash, he has only ONE better single then the average world record.

I do think he has a potential, but i think it's going to take like 7-8 competitions for him as it took for everyone else. (Yes, i know Yu Nakajima broke the average WR on his 4th competition.)

And yes, maybe i'm wrong.

7-8 competitions!

That will take me 7-8 years!

 

[Kian]

Did i miss something or Feliks is really that consistent? I know his times at home but we all know that doing the same in competition is taking for a while. Think about Breandan, Tomasz or even Erik what results they get in their first competitions due to their times at home. Or just think of yourself.

Don't get me wrong, i know he is good, but i think saying that he will break the average WR next time is a bit rash, he has only ONE better single then the average world record.

I do think he has a potential, but i think it's going to take like 7-8 competitions for him as it took for everyone else. (Yes, i know Yu Nakajima broke the average WR on his 4th competition.)

And yes, maybe i'm wrong.

7-8 competitions!

That will take me 7-8 years!

learn2fly.

 

[Faz]

That's with flying!

Actually, I am going to 2 next year.

The New Zealand one, and the Asian championships.

 

[Olivér Perge]

Don't get me wrong, i know he is good, but i think saying that he will break the average WR next time is a bit rash, he has only ONE better single then the average world record.

This is not a fair comparison at all.

Well i had nothing else to compare with... But i also forgot the fact that he is colour neutral which makes the chances better. (Like Robert Yau.)

Look at Tomasz's performance at Silesia Open 2009; he did not get a single solve under the WR average even once - does that mean he is incapable of getting a WR average? Of course not

This also proves that you need many competitions (many different rounds and scrambles) and many experiences to get very good results.

I think he has a definite chance at the WR (maybe not the next time, but soon).

I totally agree with that one.

7-8 competitions! That will take me 7-8 years!

Isn't that possible to organize a small competition on your own? I don't know the details about the australian speedcubing community but you basically need a WCA delegate, 11 other fellow cubers and a few timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[Cyrus C.]

But i also forgot the fact that he is colour neutral which makes the chances better. (Like Robert Yau.)
timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.

How does that up his chances?

 

[Faz]

7-8 competitions! That will take me 7-8 years!

Isn't that possible to organize a small competition on your own? I don't know the details about the australian speedcubing community but you basically need a WCA delegate, 11 other fellow cubers and a few timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

Well, we have about 30 known cubers here in melbourne, and 10 or so regularly attend meets.

We are organising a competition (official) for the 30th of Jan, and Dene Beardsley will be the delegate. We have everything sorted, apart from displays. We need to hire them.

And Oliver - you aren't wrong, so no-one needs to correct you

 

[Olivér Perge]

But i also forgot the fact that he is colour neutral which makes the chances better. (Like Robert Yau.)
timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.

How does that up his chances?

He can pick the easiest cross.

 

[jms_gears1]

i will break a record, the biggest difference in normal solves and comp solves... grr i hate my average

 

[jms_gears1]

But i also forgot the fact that he is colour neutral which makes the chances better. (Like Robert Yau.)
timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.

How does that up his chances?

He can pick the easiest cross.

theres been soo many threads on this.

either way it doesnt really up his chances. people that are color dependent are not worse off. it just depends on what you are used to.

 

[Crazycuber]

Im thinking Yu Nakajima would beat the world record. He posted a video of solving it in 6.57 sec. on youtube...
And Im japanese, so is he-not to be racest

 

[Cyrus C.]

But i also forgot the fact that he is colour neutral which makes the chances better. (Like Robert Yau.)
timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.

How does that up his chances?

He can pick the easiest cross.

That doesn't up his chances, he does that in practice also.

 

[Kian]

That's with flying!

Actually, I am going to 2 next year.

The New Zealand one, and the Asian championships.

No no. Who said I meant on a plane?

 

[StachuK1992]

I honestly think that Rowe will get a sub10 average out of nowhere, and sub 17 OH. You just wait.

 

[Olivér Perge]

But i also forgot the fact that he is colour neutral which makes the chances better. (Like Robert Yau.)
timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.

How does that up his chances?

He can pick the easiest cross.

theres been soo many threads on this.

either way it doesnt really up his chances. people that are color dependent are not worse off. it just depends on what you are used to.

But i also forgot the fact that he is colour neutral which makes the chances better. (Like Robert Yau.)
timers(displays preferrably but optional). Again: correct me if i'm wrong.

How does that up his chances?

He can pick the easiest cross.

That doesn't up his chances, he does that in practice also.

Got it. I thought it make him more consistent in competition at least .