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Sorry, you shouldn't post about 3 replies to 3 different posts. Could you post one full reply quoting all those posts from now on?Is that all? I was hoping it might be something radical and ground-breaking!
Sorry, you shouldn't post about 3 replies to 3 different posts. Could you post one full reply quoting all those posts from now on?Is that all? I was hoping it might be something radical and ground-breaking!
And thats not? There might be something that I don't know of though.Is that all? I was hoping it might be something radical and ground-breaking!
That's because it isn't released yet. Chris Tran has videos on the project on his YouTube channel. You might be interested in this video, based solely on the title.I can't find any info on this on their website = https://thecubicle.us/cubicle-labs-c-228.html
Is the Boron treatment something like a coating of Teflon which will keep the cube permanently lubricated?
I just used nornal 4mmx2mm n35 neodymium magents, as for the foam, any foam would work, it just blocks out the sound of the hollow pieces and btw, I only foam modded it on the edge piece due to the face that the Valk has holes in the corner so I do not recommend putting any there. Hope this helped!Great work bro! What size magnets did you use and what kind of foam?
Thanks!
I guess that proves that it's the combination of snappy magnets and hollow pieces in the UM that make it as relatively loud as it is, since I definitely hear the magnets.Oh yes, and if you guys are wondering, my normal Gan Air and the new DIY Gan Air is the same, they are both really quiet, this proves that adding magnets does not make it any louder so feel free to put magnets in your Gan Air
It might only be the UM that you hear the magnets because for my DIY one, I don't hear the magnetic click sound, I only feel it. Luckily I made a DIY instead of the UM because I really dislike the the weight of the normal Air, even the weight of the DIY Air with magnets is a bit too light for my liking.I guess that proves that it's the combination of snappy magnets and hollow pieces in the UM that make it as relatively loud as it is, since I definitely hear the magnets.
Though I suppose we can only say that with certainty if we also compare a base Ultimate, but I don't have one of those~
Interesting... but it seems like a lot of effort for minimal improvement?That's because it isn't released yet. Chris Tran has videos on the project on his YouTube channel. You might be interested in this video, based solely on the title.
Essentially, it's a treatment that alters the chemistry of the plastic itself to change the feeling, rather than coating it like lubricant (though Teflon is a big part of Lubicle One, another project of theirs). He explains it pretty well in this video.
Because the manufacturers don't change their plastics like that. The boron project is supposed to give people choice where previously there was none, and reasonably would not be from the manufacturer.Interesting... but it seems like a lot of effort for minimal improvement?
Why modify the plastic to be softer (which no doubt will add significantly to the cost) when it would be easier for the manufacturer to just use a softer plastic to begin with? I'm sure if the market was big enough for a different feeling material, then the bigger cube companies would mass produce a new range using it?
Unfortunately, the weight isn't something they can solve. Neodymium magnets are pretty much the strongest per weight magnets available, and the strength of the magnet is dependent on the amount of material present -So, removing a significant amount of weight would remove a significant amount of the force. That is not to say the problem can't be solved, as there is plenty of research being done to find more potent materials for permanent magnets, but that's not in the Cubicle's ballpark.Those videos did bring up some others which show Chris working on a MagLev system - that definitely would be cool! Unfortunately it seems to add extra weight, but hopefully they can figure a way around that?
If you can figure out an easier way to bring back the plastic of OP Dayans, please, just let me know.Interesting... but it seems like a lot of effort for minimal improvement?
If you overlube a gans 356 air, it makes it much quiterHi all,
as some of you might know, I'm not very active in competitive speedcubing anymore. Partly because of lack of time to practice and because I'm old
While I started practicing for the WC I noticed (again) that practicing in public can sometimes be considered annoying by people who are busy with something else. Especially my Valk3 is nice and loud.
With all the new cubes on the martket, I simply lost the overview of what is out there.
What do you think is the most silent cube? It should still be a top-notch speedcube of course!
I'm sure they would - if they saw a nice profit in it for them!Because the manufacturers don't change their plastics like that.
But didn't Dayan make similar feeling cubes in the past?The boron project is supposed to give people choice where previously there was none, and reasonably would not be from the manufacturer.
I was thinking they could make a new mould which encapsulates the magnet (so reducing the chance it will work loose if not glued properly) and has a much thinner section where the magnet is held - therefore smaller magnets could be used as it will generate the same force through a shorter cross-section of plastic...?Unfortunately, the weight isn't something they can solve. Neodymium magnets are pretty much the strongest per weight magnets available, and the strength of the magnet is dependent on the amount of material present -So, removing a significant amount of weight would remove a significant amount of the force. That is not to say the problem can't be solved, as there is plenty of research being done to find more potent materials for permanent magnets, but that's not in the Cubicle's ballpark.
Maybe try persuading Dayan to bring it back into production?If you can figure out an easier way to bring back the plastic of OP Dayans, please, just let me know.
They know full well what people think, it's just not economical to keep switching around plastics. Think of it like stickerless shades, except even more work to change -Everyone has a preference, and if you try to accommodate that you either fall short because you can't make all the options or you lose money with over-complicated manufacturing and stock problems. I prefer that companies use whatever plastic they think is best and put all their attention into design and features rather than worry about how some people want a softer plastic and some people want a harder plastic and so-on.I'm sure they would - if they saw a nice profit in it for them!
Hopefully Cubicle can show there is a big enough demand for softer feeling plastic (like they did with Magnetic Cubes) - which the mass producers will notice and start to supply themselves.
But didn't Dayan make similar feeling cubes in the past?
Why did they decide to change the material they use?
Perhaps the softer plastic have inherent problems like lower durability and higher cost etc?
Exactly - unlike Magnets, I doubt there will be much demand for softer plastic so mass production is unlikely... in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the market is so small, that Cubicle decide to discontinue the project!Maybe we'll see future puzzles come in different plastics like we're starting to see more mainstream cubes use magnets, though personally I doubt it. Only a subset of people wish their favorite cube used a different plastic, and that's why we have Project Boron.
I'd say for your cube to be as quiet as possible, you should use some heavy lube. This will cause your cube to be a bit slower but the lube to be more noticeable and therefore probably reducing sound better than light lube.I'd have to second the Gans Air, it's the quietest cube I own.
It can get pretty damn fast if you set it up that way, which I love, but it's too catchy to be my main, so it's officially my "if I pull out my GTS then the person sitting next to me will punch me" cube.
Incidentally, does anyone know how to set it up to be as quiet as is technically possible? Heavy or light lubricant, which springs, that sort of stuff.
Hey guys,
I wanted to revive this post after a few months
Any other ideas? I've seen reviews and the TangLong looks pretty quiet, but some people here don't seem to think alike. Gans Air SM looks idea but it's way too expensive. How about the YJ MGC?
If you want a cheap Gan cube, get a 356sv2 lite.
I do not necessarily require a Gans, but thanks for the recommendations
I was thinking of getting the Valk 3 instead of the Valk 3 Power, after checking some recommendations, but I guess is not as quiet.