Waffle's Roux Tutorial

[Athefre]

I look at FUR, UFL and ULB

For this case I determine that FUR and UFL are opposites.

This got me thinking though and I may get it now. You are saying that with NMCMLL (R2 only I guess) in the above case I should look at the relevant corners U-face sticker. If they are not the same I should change one sticker of my targets to the opposite. If that was relevant for this case I would get two same colored stickers. Right?

It seems a bit tricky to do fast, but I could use it to check the case when I am unsure.

Yep, that's how it works and with practice it's pretty fast.

EDIT: I got a chance to look at your NMCMLL method. It does look really interesting. It could convince me to use full NMCMLL.

I only use R2 blocks sometimes. I don't think there are any Roux users that use full NMCMLL yet.

 

[Kirjava]

***** u trippin

 

[BigGreen]

1.81, 2.16, 1.20, (0.64), 1.78, 2.34, 2.12, 1.66, 2.53, 2.43, (2.90), 1.93 = 1.99

i dont like this one

1.47, 1.79, 1.83, 1.45, 1.98, 1.70, 1.94, 1.98, 1.97, (1.42), (2.30), 1.58 = 1.77

 

[Kirjava]

wtf

 

[oll+phase+sync]

... You are saying that with NMCMLL (R2 only I guess) in the above case I should look at the relevant corners U-face sticker. If they are not the same I should change one sticker of my targets to the opposite.

I read multiple times that R2 NMCMLL is a piece of cake - but it was not true for me (maybe now I understand) ...

1st Test: In the quote above I can replace U-face with L/R-face and it is still correct ? EDIT Wrong it only works with U.

2nd Test: If I just use 3 stickers for recognition, it's easier because I just have to convert 1 sticker, while 4 sticker recognition requires 2 stickers to be converted. EDIT also wrong there is no real difference

P:S: I would recognize the given Sune case by recognizing UFR is opposite UBL and UBL is same as BUR (I'm not really looking at the back - back here is my left side)
So in general for all R2-Sunelike-cases: 1. Look for two oposite or same colored stickers on top 2. apply an "inmind" flip of the 3rd recognition sticker if necessary

 

[pijok]

I'm also working on a third that reduces NMCLL to 42 cases instead of 83.

How are you trying to do that? It seems impossible with the concept of looking at white and yellow stickers to recognize the cases...

 

[Phlippieskezer]

Well, I am now a sub-20 Roux solver... And before that I could hardly even manage sub-30 Fridrich. :-/

Thanks so much! This method is great fun, and it gets me good times. :3

P.S. Even my Fridrich times dropped as a result of learning Roux... I guess it's just because I have a better feel for the cube now, though.

 

[Phlippieskezer]

Question: is it worth the trouble to try being colour neutral with Roux? I'm only opposite colour neutral as of right now...

 

[waffle=ijm]

lol. no one is color neutral on roux.

 

[Phlippieskezer]

But why is that? It doesn't look like a particularly hard method to be colour neutral with, to be honest. Only the CMLL detection would mess you up, really. Or am I wrong (which is certainly possible)?

 

[RyanReese09]

lol. no one is color neutral on roux.

IIRC Chris Hardwick is?

99% sure he said he was.

 

[Robert-Y]

lol. no one is color neutral on roux.

I am

I almost average sub 15.

EDIT: But I think it may be safe to say: No one who does roux as their main method, and who is very fast, is colour neutral?

 

[jms_gears1]

I am

I almost average sub 15.

see no one is color neutral on roux.

 

[cmhardw]

IIRC Chris Hardwick is?

99% sure he said he was.

I'm color neutral-ish. I will solve any easy block first, but I'm noticeably slower if the D layer color is either blue or green, and considerably slower if the D layer color is either orange or red. I'm learning Roux for fun mostly, and I figured since absolutely everything in this method is new to me, that I may as well use this as an excuse to be color neutral in at least one method.

However, I'm much faster when the D layer color is either white or yellow (the same colors I use for cross in Fridrich).

 

[Hershey]

I am color neutral when using roux (for fun, not main method).
I guess that's because I still use CFOP and make 3 cross pieces and then put 2 corners in for the first block (please don't shoot me).

 

[dieguito]

Could you please make a tutorial on Roux for the 4x4?

 

[Hershey]

Could you please make a tutorial on Roux for the 4x4?

KBCM and Stadler is the closest to Roux for 4x4 I think.

K4 starts out like Roux, but the rest of the solve is more of a LBL or CFOP method.

 

[OMGitsSolved]

Could you please make a tutorial on Roux for the 4x4?

Just use Reduction until it has been reduced to a 3x3 state. Then, solve just as you would on 3x3 (fixing parity of course)

 

[RyanReese09]

K4 starts out like Roux, but the rest of the solve is more of a LBL or CFOP method.

Do you read what you type before you post? Or do you headbang the keyboard until something comes out as a coherant sentence?

In case you don't understand, you're wrong.

Infract me if you wish, I'll take it like a man.

 

[BigGreen]

Do you read what you type before you post? Or do you headbang the keyboard until something comes out as a coherant sentence?

In case you don't understand, you're wrong.

Infract me if you wish, I'll take it like a man.