V-cube 6 and 7 Official WCA events

[qqwref]

Well, with more bigcubes as official events there's nothing from stopping someone hosting a "World BigCubes Championship". Winner gets a set of bigcubes or something . I'd try to get there. If you don't like bigcubes, you don't have to come!

We already had a World BigCubes Championship, it was called the V-CUBE competition in Essen, Germany ;-) In my opinion quite a good deal of the top 5x5 through 7x7 solvers were there: for instance the final round of 5x5 had the #1, #2, and #4 officially ranked 5x5 cubers at the time (and then me ).

And, you know, I don't actually see any reason why something like this couldn't be held again later, and perhaps even official next time. I wouldn't have a problem with just doing 4x4 through 7x7 (and maybe we could also hold big cube BLD if enough people wanted, we'd probably have time). I love bigcubes.

Well, very good point! Bigcube comp would obviously be superior to every other comp .

Yeah, It would remove the 3x3x3 event completely

Bah, it's too hard to be good at 3x3, and it's so boring too!

 

[DcF1337]

Hey.. about the 10 minutes limit. I don't think it'll be easy to solve 11x11s under 10 minutes when they come out.

Maybe Speedstacks should sell timers with a 30 minute limit. :O

 

[masterofthebass]

I don't want anything greater than 7x7 official. After that, it is just completely pointless...

 

[qqwref]

I think it's fair that if you can't solve it in under 10 minutes you can't do it officially. This will place a firm limit on the biggest cubes we can have. If nobody can do an 11x11x11 in under 10 minutes, it won't be an official event, simple as that.

I do agree with Dan though, a 7x7 already has every type of piece, and anything bigger is just doing the same thing over again. So I think after 7x7 there is no need to make official events, even if people might have fun with them unofficially.

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

I think 6x6 and 7x7 should be official, for those who are at least sub 10 for both puzzles, which isn't hard at all.

WHAT?? You had a 9:55.71 on the 7x7!

I had a 10:07...

 

[James Kobel]

A couple things to consider...
-If the WCA does add 6x6 and 7x7, competitions that do host those events will not have time for others, such as Pyraminx and Square1.

I think that is really the biggest problem, pyraminx is a popular event, and if they didn't have square 1 at a competition near me, I would not go, and so would many others.Maybe in a few months-a year they will have it because right now, alot of people don't have them and/or can't solve them, but I think in a while, the amount of V-cube owners will go up by alot, then there will be a bigger group constantly asking the WCA to add them, which eventually they most likely will.

 

[Tomarse]

A couple things to consider...
-If the WCA does add 6x6 and 7x7, competitions that do host those events will not have time for others, such as Pyraminx and Square1.

I think that is really the biggest problem, pyraminx is a popular event, and if they didn't have square 1 at a competition near me, I would not go, and so would many others.Maybe in a few months-a year they will have it because right now, alot of people don't have them and/or can't solve them, but I think in a while, the amount of V-cube owners will go up by alot, then there will be a bigger group constantly asking the WCA to add them, which eventually they most likely will.

2 Day competitions?

 

[James Kobel]

A couple things to consider...
-If the WCA does add 6x6 and 7x7, competitions that do host those events will not have time for others, such as Pyraminx and Square1.

I think that is really the biggest problem, pyraminx is a popular event, and if they didn't have square 1 at a competition near me, I would not go, and so would many others.Maybe in a few months-a year they will have it because right now, alot of people don't have them and/or can't solve them, but I think in a while, the amount of V-cube owners will go up by alot, then there will be a bigger group constantly asking the WCA to add them, which eventually they most likely will.

2 Day competitions?

That does work, but then everyone has to find some place to stay, someones house to crash at, and whatever.Also, most people at competitions are driven by their parents, who mainly would rather go on saturday, and rest on sunday.

 

[Tomarse]

A couple things to consider...
-If the WCA does add 6x6 and 7x7, competitions that do host those events will not have time for others, such as Pyraminx and Square1.

I think that is really the biggest problem, pyraminx is a popular event, and if they didn't have square 1 at a competition near me, I would not go, and so would many others.Maybe in a few months-a year they will have it because right now, alot of people don't have them and/or can't solve them, but I think in a while, the amount of V-cube owners will go up by alot, then there will be a bigger group constantly asking the WCA to add them, which eventually they most likely will.

2 Day competitions?

That does work, but then everyone has to find some place to stay, someones house to crash at, and whatever.Also, most people at competitions are driven by their parents, who mainly would rather go on saturday, and rest on sunday.

True, but it would show commitment? Lol, most people stay in hotels the night before also.

 

[Bryan]

2 Day competitions?

Sure, there are two day competitions, but those are usually huge competitions. The issue here is people are just going to be asking more from the organizers but not do much to help them achieve the goals. Even in regular competitions today, if you ask for some event to be added, perhaps explain what you're going to do to help out with that request. If you want 7x7x7 added, are you going to help pay for the venue for a 2nd day?

 

[AvGalen]

A couple things to consider...
-If the WCA does add 6x6 and 7x7, competitions that do host those events will not have time for others, such as Pyraminx and Square1.

I think that is really the biggest problem, pyraminx is a popular event, and if they didn't have square 1 at a competition near me, I would not go, and so would many others.Maybe in a few months-a year they will have it because right now, alot of people don't have them and/or can't solve them, but I think in a while, the amount of V-cube owners will go up by alot, then there will be a bigger group constantly asking the WCA to add them, which eventually they most likely will.

2 Day competitions?

That does work, but then everyone has to find some place to stay, someones house to crash at, and whatever.Also, most people at competitions are driven by their parents, who mainly would rather go on saturday, and rest on sunday.

You are saying that like it is a problem. I consider the night in between extra time to have fun.

And I don't know how old you are, but I have never been to a competition where "most people are driven by their parents". Maybe you are just considering you and your friends?

I love 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 in competitions, but on 6x6x6 my times are determined more by the amount of POPs I have than they are based on my skill-level. And if an 8x8x8 would ever be sold I would like to have it in a competition. I don't care that it will not be a different challenge, I just want to have fun solving it, improve and compare myself to others.

Mean of 3 seems like the best format.

 

[Mike Hughey]

And I don't know how old you are, but I have never been to a competition where "most people are driven by their parents". Maybe you are just considering you and your friends?

Well, among the competitions I've been to other than the US Opens, I'd certainly say around half of the competitors are driven there by their parents. Here in the USA, it's pretty common to have a very large percentage of competitors under the age of 16 (and hence not legal to drive), especially at the smaller competitions. I think that's a significant difference between the USA and Europe.

 

[Erik]

Actually we already see that events are canceled due to big cubes. Look at Aachen, they originally had multi planned. But now they had to cancel that due to time problems and favor the 6 and 7 events instead... Dennis was not really happy with this. Also at competitions like the Hague Open (which was a very well run competition I have to say) where we did 6 and 7 too I had the feeling there would've been events like minx and pyraminx and sq-1 if they didn't have 6 and 7. It kinda sucks.
Oh btw Arnaud: I dunno how, but I barely pop on 6x6 and pop way more on 7x7
And Mike: In Europe we have a loooot of carpooling and stuff, if there would be someone under 16 they just carpool along with it, but I guess that's not really handy in the US with all those big distances? (though I frequently carpool with Arnaud who lives about 125 miles (200 km) from me)

 

[joey]

(though I frequently carpool with Arnaud who lives about 125 miles (200 km) from me)

Same But he is probably around 400miles ish Oh, and in a different country

 

[AvGalen]

(though I frequently carpool with Arnaud who lives about 125 miles (200 km) from me)

Same But he is probably around 400miles ish Oh, and in a different country

 

[qqwref]

Hmm. Coming from another country. You guys have a totally different conception of countries than we do, even though the situation is actually pretty similar with the EU now. I think the EU sort of feels like a country and the individual countries as states nowadays. In the US we have the same thing where you can go to a different state (without your passport) and expect to see the same currency, and it's the same in the EU. So it feels unfair to me to see Europeans on the "most countries visited" list when ten of those countries have been ones with the same currency that they didn't need a passport to go to, and could get to by train...

 

[joey]

I always need my passport :/

Oh and qq: It's not always the same currency.. and it still is different countries. It's not our fault we hold the WR for number of countries visited Maybe you should take this higher up, to the EU committee

 

[blade740]

Well, there IS (sometimes) a language difference (although from what I can tell english is fairly common througout)

 

[Bob]

I always need my passport :/

Oh and qq: It's not always the same currency.. and it still is different countries. It's not our fault we hold the WR for number of countries visited Maybe you should take this higher up, to the EU committee

With the new feature of maps that display the locations of each competition, perhaps one day (because this would take a ton of work) it will instead (or additionally) display the total distance traveled for competitions.

 

[Ton]

Actually we already see that events are canceled due to big cubes. Look at Aachen, they originally had multi planned.

That was my advice , it is their first competition and multiblindfold is demanding in the number of judges in a competition where many want to compete in this event and it just is to hard as a parallel event....