V-cube 6 and 7 Official WCA events

[Tomarse]

I recently read a discussion about the 6 and 7 becoming official events in competitions, what are your views on this? pros' and cons'? I personally think it would be good, but they are quite agonising to solve and making time for the events in competitions could be difficult, as I say, opinions below

 

[brunson]

Timers only go to ten minutes, that may be a barrier...

 

[masterofthebass]

Like I've stated on the WCA forum, there's no reason not to make these official just because it would be harder to hold them in competition. I don't think the reason for not having a puzzle official should be about holding the event. Holding the event should be up to the organizer, and they should make sure there would be enough time to hold the event. Not every event needs to be held at a competition.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

A couple things to consider...
-If the WCA does add 6x6 and 7x7, competitions that do host those events will not have time for others, such as Pyraminx and Square1.
-Also, what average format would the 6x6 and 7x7 be in? Standard 3/5, combined final, mean of 3?

 

[Ethan Rosen]

Timers only go to ten minutes, that may be a barrier...

Then people who can't beat 10 minutes shouldn't sign up for the event.

 

[Escher]

best of 3 or 2 probably, given the length...
and a stopwatch happily solves the stackmat problem.

 

[Tomarse]

Timers only go to ten minutes, that may be a barrier...

Then people who can't beat 10 minutes shouldn't sign up for the event.

I lol'd

 

[Tomarse]

A couple things to consider...
-If the WCA does add 6x6 and 7x7, competitions that do host those events will not have time for others, such as Pyraminx and Square1.
-Also, what average format would the 6x6 and 7x7 be in? Standard 3/5, combined final, mean of 3?

Uk Open didn't have sq-1 or Pyraminx or clock, I know Pembo would of liked to do clock, and I'm pretty sure Charlie would of liked to do pyra

 

[Tomarse]

Like I've stated on the WCA forum, there's no reason not to make these official just because it would be harder to hold them in competition. I don't think the reason for not having a puzzle official should be about holding the event. Holding the event should be up to the organizer, and they should make sure there would be enough time to hold the event. Not every event needs to be held at a competition.

Fair one, I Just thought so records could be held

 

[rjohnson_8ball]

Under 10 minutes per solve? (Stackmat Competition Timer limitation.) I guess that and the fact that many cubers still do not have V-cubes would weed out many competitors (such as me). My opinion is Yes. [[Oops, my remark about 10 min limit was typed but posted well after other people brought it up.]]

 

[CharlieCooper]

I'm pretty sure Charlie would of liked to do pyra

hell yeah

 

[Dene]

Well, with more bigcubes as official events there's nothing from stopping someone hosting a "World BigCubes Championship". Winner gets a set of bigcubes or something . I'd try to get there. If you don't like bigcubes, you don't have to come!

 

[Hakan]

We've had unofficial 6x6 and 7x7 events in Dutch competitions. During Dutch Open 2008 and The Hague Open 2008 we did 6x6 and 7x7. The format was mean of 3 for both events. The time limit was 8:00, so your first solve had to be sub 8 minutes or else you wouldn't get another attempt.

It was a lot of fun, especially seeing people desperately looking for a 6x6 piece .

I think 6x6 and 7x7 should be official, for those who are at least sub 10 for both puzzles, which isn't hard at all. The V-Cube products would also be promoted. Maybe WCA should make a deal with Verdes to make 6x6 and 7x7 official. The V-Cubes company would sell more cubes and WCA would get some financial help.

 

[shelley]

Timers only go to ten minutes, that may be a barrier...

Then people who can't beat 10 minutes shouldn't sign up for the event.

You'd think that would be a reasonable solution. But I know of a competitor who doesn't know parity algs for 4x4 and 5x5 and thus can only complete the puzzle 50% of the time. That doesn't stop this person from signing up and competing in 4x4 and 5x5 anyway.

 

[Kian]

frankly, it'd be silly to not allow it because of time. like other events, the cutoff should be a stackmat, and that is a reasonable time. if bigger cubes than 7x7 come out we will have to address that then, but for these two it just doesn't make sense not to make them official if there is time for them. having big cube tournaments and non big cube tournaments might be a good idea, too.

 

[MistArts]

Well for these "unpopular" (side) events, we could have them all at the same time and when the time limit for all those events is over, it's over.

This way we can have the side event running with the bigcubes and people have to choose events wisely based on time.

 

[shafiqdms1]

actually, they could also use stopwatches so if the stackmat runs out they use the time from the stopwatch, just like they do in bld.

 

[Hadley4000]

I guess the whole thing with it not fitting ont he Stackmat is an issue. Because events like 4x4BLD, 5x5BLD, multi and fewest moves always stackmat.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

actually, they could also use stopwatches so if the stackmat runs out they use the time from the stopwatch, just like they do in bld.

Or even better, we could use stackmats and set a limit at 10:00

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

if they have 4x4, 5x5, and multi BLDs, they could have the v-cubes

10 minute barrier for both seems resonable.