Unveiling of the most anticipated V-CUBE 3

[Punjisticks]

Is anybody doing a review on this soon? I so want to see if this is worth the hype.

 

[rubiksarlen]

Check out this post by a guy Justin: "Again V-Cubes! CONGRATULATIONS on releasing your latest and newest V-CUBE 3! I sure am looking forward to new and future patented products to be released!"

And V-cubes replied: "Thank you Justin, We will release them all, because we do have positive's people support. Also the market seems to like us more and more..."

LOL? I really sure hope they're being sarcastic.....

 

[byliu88]

+1 for kevin

 

[Muesli]

It amuses me how V-cubes suddenly want in on the speedcubing market. Quote "The DIY is not a mass producable product. We sell it only online for the cubers. If cubers not like it we could stop selling it thought we doubt this will be the case [sic]."

Their 6x6 cube is almost impossible to work with unless it is extensively modded and altered from the original designs, the 5x5 requires some sanding to make it smooth and none of their 5-7 cubes are adjustable (I don't know about the 2x2).

They have taken years to act upon their patents, and even then release silly (from a speedcubing perspective) cubes like the Illusion and the Dazzler in lieu of the cubes that were sought after by our community. (2,3,4,8)

I think this is an interesting change of tone for a company that has so obviously not pandered to the Speedcubing community.

It's very hard to take their side. Whilst it might not be patent-infringing it sure is hippocritical of them.

I shan't be getting one. It's also pretty overpriced for a 3x3 when we can get tried and tested cubes from Dayan for almost 2/3 of the price.

EDIT: Also, screw you all. I was about to go to bed when this drama started. Late night again.

 

[chewbacca1229]

Check out this post by a guy Justin: "Again V-Cubes! CONGRATULATIONS on releasing your latest and newest V-CUBE 3! I sure am looking forward to new and future patented products to be released!"

And V-cubes replied: "Thank you Justin, We will release them all, because we do have positive's people support. Also the market seems to like us more and more..."

LOL? I really sure hope they're being sarcastic.....

I think that many people are excited. Its not just that its gonna be a good cube. It is that its a v-cube and i enjoy having the whole v-cube collection because all their puzzles are good.

 

[Kyle™]

People bashing V-cubes for "copying" are wrong. They are releasing puzzles that they have had planned for years.
The companies that copy V-cubes may be selling good quality products, and deliver on time but they do it for the money.
If anyone doesn't know, V-cubes was the only company interacting with our community and taking our feedback on their products before they were even released. This was several years ago, before any of these Chinese companies probably existed. To not take V-cubes side is to ignore the one company who gave us what we wanted, solely because we asked for it. All I see lately are Chinese companies who beg for attention and hand out discounts. How can anyone take their side? It's mutiny against the decade-old community that grew into what you see here on this forum.
Back on topic, this cube looks stupid.
Lol

 

[Daniel Wu]

Holy expensive. I'm interested to see how people who do get it like it though.

 

[musicninja17]

After talking to Konstantinos Verdes for quite some time at the MN competition last year, I really got a glimpse of his personality. He can be a nice guy on the surface, but if you say something that he doesn't necessarily agree with, he can be a dick. I think the whole using the torpedos thing is their way of sticking it to the "chinese companies"...I mean I'd be pissed off too if YJ pulled copyright infringement like that.

He talked about they actually had a physical run in at a certain toy fair that the both of them were attending and they had "YJ kicked out of the place". I have no clue what all is the true story; but it was just interesting to meet him in person. I went away with very mixed feelings for the Verdes family that day.

He is extremely sensitive about the whole copyright thing. And i'm sure the little bit of language barrier doesn't help. I'm not even sure if he is the main PR guy. And whoever it is needs to be fired. The posting on Facebook sounds so unprofessional.

 

[Stefan]

+1 for kevin

-1

He also wrote this amusing piece:

If someone(or even the thieves) believe that we copied anyone they can go to law

So we have thought police now?

:fp

He's way too eager to see fault in everything V-CUBE writes, including where there is none. V-CUBE could have handled it better, but I find their responses fairly reasonable.

 

[Cool Frog]

Fig 3.3.1 is a...

 

[aronpm]

Fig 3.3.1 is a...

cross-section of a centre piece

 

[byliu88]

-1

He also wrote this amusing piece:

:fp

He's way too eager to see fault in everything V-CUBE writes, including where there is none. V-CUBE could have handled it better, but I find their responses fairly reasonable.

idk, in my opinion V-Cube is really trying to avoid perfectly reasonable questions (I mean he even asked politely!) with perfectly justified reasons to do so.
edit:
also, I honestly don't care whether they use torpedos or not, whether they stole the idea or not, its just the fact that they refuse to admit anything of the sort that surprises me.

 

[Kirjava]

If someone(or even the thieves) believe that we copied anyone they can go to law

Something doesn't have to be illegal to be a copy.

I'm glad they're taking designs from Dayan. As long as they no longer cause them trouble everything is fine.

 

[choza244]

LOL at the end they copied the torpedoes idea from the Dayan cubes, just hope Dayan could sue them (knowing that is almost imposible to happen).

I can't say I wont buy one, I don't like the company but that pillowed version looks interesting.

 

[cookieyo145]

Just posted on their facebook. Im Albert Jiang. i tried to be as nice as possible. I shouldn't have.

 

[emolover]

Wow. I swear the guy answering the questions on the Facebook page is the absolute most stubborn person ever. To think I was starting to like V-cubes again then I saw the disrespect they give to any one who isn't 100% agreeing with them. Even though it has been almost a year since I read there patent, I truely do not remember ever seeing anything about anything that is something like the torpedo. It would have been fine of they had made the torpedo's look different like Alpha did with there CC, but they are just blatantly copying Dayan. There responces to that would be that Dayan's corners look the same, but in reality they are as alike as humans and cows are. Sure they are mammals(sure they are corners) but that is the only simalarity between them.

I just don't think it is right for one company to dictate a whole sport(could think of a better word) when they are trying to bring it to the ground. Verdes truely does not care about the speed cubing community besides the fact that we have money to spend, we are treated the same as those horrible sticker peelers that V-cubes is trying to get to so they spend there money on over priced productes which they will never fully appreciate.

 

[Stefan]

Just posted on their facebook. Im Albert Jiang. i tried to be as nice as possible. I shouldn't have.

But... but... you liked your comment :confused:

 

[qqwref]

People bashing V-cubes for "copying" are wrong. They are releasing puzzles that they have had planned for years.
The companies that copy V-cubes may be selling good quality products, and deliver on time but they do it for the money.
If anyone doesn't know, V-cubes was the only company interacting with our community and taking our feedback on their products before they were even released. This was several years ago, before any of these Chinese companies probably existed. To not take V-cubes side is to ignore the one company who gave us what we wanted, solely because we asked for it. All I see lately are Chinese companies who beg for attention and hand out discounts. How can anyone take their side? It's mutiny against the decade-old community that grew into what you see here on this forum.

Not sure if your "lol" meant that your entire post was sarcastic, but I feel like I should say that V-cubes originally took so long to deliver on their promised cubes that many people believed they were a hoax, and that they showed an attitude like this back then (before the 5-7 were released) too.

Just a little history: when the 5-7 were finally released, V-cubes got a lot of praise, and a lot of people completely reversed their opinions from highly negative to highly positive. And they deserved it - it's true that the years before that were terrible, but when the cubes were finally released, the world of bigcubing was essentially revolutionized. Plus, for a while, V-cubes was very friendly and extremely generous - they regularly donated prize money/cubes to competitions, and even flew a bunch of top bigcubers (for instance, me, Dan Cohen, and Frank Morris from the US) over to Germany to help show off at their booth at a large toy show, which was really fun. I think lately, though, V-cubes hasn't been keeping up with what people wanted, and they seem to have gotten less friendly over time too (with customer service, at least). The whole thing about getting upset and repeatedly talking about their intellectual property really hearkens back to the time before the big 5-7 release. I'm not sure why they haven't put in a lot of effort on producing the 4x4 and 8x8+, or improving their existing 5-7 designs, considering that many of the Chinese companies seem to make new bigcube designs pretty frequently. I fear that if V-cubes isn't careful they may end up almost as irrelevant to speedcubers as Seventowns is... and that makes me sad, because I know what great things they are capable of if they take care with what they say and how they act.

 

[MaeLSTRoM]

... V-CUBE could have handled it better, but I find their responses fairly reasonable.

I agree with this. V-cubes are a good company, but if you had people telling you that your product that you have planned for years, is a copy of a new-ish product, I tink you would get annoyed too. Just leave off them guys, and maybe they'll be more likely to do nice stuff for the community again.

 

[The Bloody Talon]

I agree with this. V-cubes are a good company, but if you had people telling you that your product that you have planned for years, is a copy of a new-ish product, I tink you would get annoyed too. Just leave off them guys, and maybe they'll be more likely to do nice stuff for the community again.

well it is understandable (for me) that they will be annoyed. But they should be still friendly with their costumer.