The Square-1 "Example Solve" Game

Lid · Mar 6, 2017

Raptor56 said:
Next Scramble: (-5, 0) / (2, -4) / (4, -5) / (3, 0) / (6, 0) / (-1, -1) / (0, -5) / (3, 0) / (1, 0) / (-2, 0) / (0, -1) / (2, 0) / (0, -5) / (-1, 0)

1,-1/-2,0/0,1/2,0/-1,0/-3,0/ | CSP-even
0,5/ | CO
-2,-5/3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/-3,0/ | EO-1+1
2,-4/3,-3/0,6/4,1/2,-1/-3,-3/3,-5 | PBL (J/R)

next: (0, 2) / (-2, -5) / (0, -3) / (2, -1) / (3, 0) / (-3, -3) / (0, -2) / (-3, 0) / (0, -3) / (-2, 0) / (-2, 0) / (4, -1) / (2, 0) /

chronondecay · Mar 11, 2017

Hi all, first example solve here.

Lid said:
next: (0, 2) / (-2, -5) / (0, -3) / (2, -1) / (3, 0) / (-3, -3) / (0, -2) / (-3, 0) / (0, -3) / (-2, 0) / (-2, 0) / (4, -1) / (2, 0) /

-4,0/-2,3/2,-3/2,1/3,0/ [CS]
1,0/-4,5/ [CO]
-2,1/3,0/-1,-1/-3,0/ [EO]
0,-5/-3,0/3,3/0,-3/0,-1/3,-3/-3,-3/0,6/3,1 [PBL: J/G = J/J + N/N]
[19|49]

On this thread, should I post the first solution that I got (below), or the solution that I wish were my first solution (above)?

First attempt:
-2,-2/0,-3/-2,3/1,2/3,0/ [CS]
5,0/-2,-5/ [CO]
6,0/3,0/-1,-1/-3,0/ [EO]
0,1/3,3/1,0/-2,4/2,-4/2,0/3,3/3,0/3,3/ [CPP]
1,0/0,3/-1,-1/6,-3/-2,1/-1,-1/3,0/-2,1/-1,-1/4,1/6,0/5,0 [EP: adj/adj cancel into U/U]
[31|80]

Next: (0, 5) / (0, 3) / (6, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-5, -2) / (-1, -1) / (0, -5) / (3, 0) / (0, -4) / (1, 0) / (0, -4) / (4, 0) / (-2, 0) / (0, -3)

1973486 · Mar 11, 2017

chronondecay said:
On this thread, should I post the first solution that I got (below), or the solution that I wish were my first solution (above)?

I would do either

Next: (0, 5) / (0, 3) / (6, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-5, -2) / (-1, -1) / (0, -5) / (3, 0) / (0, -4) / (1, 0) / (0, -4) / (4, 0) / (-2, 0) / (0, -3)

0,3/0,-2/0,-1/0,1/3,0/
-2,0/0,3/3,0/
-3,-3/3,0/-1,-1/-3,0/
3,-5/-3,0/3,3/0,-3
-3,3/3,3/1,0/-2,4/2,-4/0,4/-4,-4/3,0/-3,-3/3,3

Next: (6, -1) / (-2, -5) / (3, 0) / (-4, -1) / (-3, 0) / (3, -2) / (3, 0) / (3, 0) / (-2, 0) / (4, 0) / (0, -4) / (1, -2)

bobthegiraffemonkey · Mar 11, 2017

This thread is currently most of the sq-1 solves I'm doing lol. Still making slow progress with PLL+1 notes, not much left to do.

(6, -1) / (-2, -5) / (3, 0) / (-4, -1) / (-3, 0) / (3, -2) / (3, 0) / (3, 0) / (-2, 0) / (4, 0) / (0, -4) / (1, -2)

-12/2-2/04/-2-1/0-3/
-31/-1-1/-3/-3-3/-21/2-1/
-2-5/-3-3/-3/-3/3/-12/41/-4-1/0-2

Next: (0, 5) / (4, -2) / (3, 0) / (2, -4) / (3, 0) / (-2, -5) / (5, 0) / (-3, -3) / (0, -1) / (2, 0) / (-2, 0) / (2, 0) / (4, 0)

Lid · Mar 11, 2017

bobthegiraffemonkey said:
Next: (0, 5) / (4, -2) / (3, 0) / (2, -4) / (3, 0) / (-2, -5) / (5, 0) / (-3, -3) / (0, -1) / (2, 0) / (-2, 0) / (2, 0) / (4, 0)

2,-2/4,0/1,0/-3,-3/ | CS
0,2/-3,0/-2,1/ | CO
5,2/4,1/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/-3,0/ | EO
5,-4/-3,0/3,3/-3,0/1,1/2,2/0,6/-3,4 | PBL (Pa/Pb)

next: (-5, 3) / (2, -4) / (4, -5) / (-4, -1) / (0, -2) / (-3, 0) / (4, -3) / (-4, 0) / (4, -3) / (4, -3) / (4, 0) / (6, 0)

bubbagrub · Mar 11, 2017

Lid said:
next: (-5, 3) / (2, -4) / (4, -5) / (-4, -1) / (0, -2) / (-3, 0) / (4, -3) / (-4, 0) / (4, -3) / (4, -3) / (4, 0) / (6, 0)

/0,1/0,2/0,1/-2,-2/1,2/-3,-3/ cube-shape
-3,-4/ CO
3,4/3,0/-3,-3/0,3/1,0/-1,-1/ EO
0,-5/3,0/-3,-3/0,3/ CP
0,2/0,-3/1,1/-1,2/0,-3/0,-3/1,1/-1,2/ EP
0,1/6,0/0,6/5,4 Finish

next: (1, 0)/(2, -1)/(3, 0)/(-2, -5)/(0, -3)/(0, -3)/(2, 0)/(3, 0)/(-3, 0)/(4, -4)/(-2, 0)/(-4, -5)/(3, 0)

1973486 · Mar 11, 2017

bubbagrub said:
/0,1/0,2/0,1/-2,-2/1,2/-3,-3/ cube-shape
-3,-4/ CO
3,4/3,0/-3,-3/0,3/1,0/-1,-1/ EO
0,-5/3,0/-3,-3/0,3/ CP
0,2/0,-3/1,1/-1,2/0,-3/0,-3/1,1/-1,2/ EP
0,1/6,0/0,6/5,4 Finish

Misalign D = EP skip

bubbagrub · Mar 11, 2017

1973486 said:
Misalign D = EP skip

One of these days I'll actually spot this...

Lid · Mar 11, 2017

bubbagrub said:
next: (1, 0)/(2, -1)/(3, 0)/(-2, -5)/(0, -3)/(0, -3)/(2, 0)/(3, 0)/(-3, 0)/(4, -4)/(-2, 0)/(-4, -5)/(3, 0)

-3,0/0,1/-2,0/2,-2/1,-4/0,3 | CSP
0,1/0,3/0,3/ | CO
-6,6/3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/0,-3/-3,3/-1,6 | EO+PBL!

next: (0, 5) / (0, -3) / (-2, -5) / (-4, -1) / (4, -3) / (-3, 0) / (0, -2) / (-1, 0) / (0, -1) / (-4, 0) / (0, -2) / (0, -3) / (-1, 0) / (0, -3)

chronondecay · Mar 12, 2017

Seems like the second move in the solution above should be (0,1) instead of (0,2).

Lid said:
next: (0, 5) / (0, -3) / (-2, -5) / (-4, -1) / (4, -3) / (-3, 0) / (0, -2) / (-1, 0) / (0, -1) / (-4, 0) / (0, -2) / (0, -3) / (-1, 0) / (0, -3)

0,-3/-3,0/-4,0/2,1/3,0/ [CS]
-2,0/ [CO]
-3,-3/3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/-3,0/ [EO]
6,3/-3,0/3,3/0,-3/0,-3/3,0/-1,-1/4,1/-6,0/2,-3 [J/J+adj/adj]
[21|52]

Next: (6, 5) / (6, -3) / (1, -2) / (2, -4) / (-3, 0) / (-3, -5) / (0, -3) / (0, -1) / (-5, 0) / (0, -4) / (0, -3) / (0, -2)

Lid · Mar 12, 2017

chronondecay said:
Next: (6, 5) / (6, -3) / (1, -2) / (2, -4) / (-3, 0) / (-3, -5) / (0, -3) / (0, -1) / (-5, 0) / (0, -4) / (0, -3) / (0, -2)

3,2/-2,0/-1,-2/-3,0/ | CSP (make kite in front)
0,-4/-3,0/ | CO, make sure to keep blocks
4,-5/-3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/3,0/ | alt EO to force EP skip
-1,0/3,0/-3,0/3,0/-3,0 | PBL (N/J)

next: (6, -4) / (6, -3) / (6, -3) / (0, -3) / (4, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-1, 0) / (4, 0) / (4, 0) / (-3, -2) / (-2, -4) / (0, -5) / (0, -3)

chronondecay said:
Seems like the second move in the solution above should be (0,1) instead of (0,2).

Fixed!

bubbagrub · Mar 12, 2017

Lid said:
next: (6, -4) / (6, -3) / (6, -3) / (0, -3) / (4, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-1, 0) / (4, 0) / (4, 0) / (-3, -2) / (-2, -4) / (0, -5) / (0, -3)

-1,4/3,-2/-1,4/0,-2/-2,0/2,4/1,2/-3,-3/ cube-shape
4,0/ CO
5,5/3,0/3,0/1,1/-3,0/-3,0/ EO
-1,-3/3,0/-3,0/3,0/-3,0/ CP
0,2/0,-3/1,1/-1,2/
-5,4/-1,-1/6,0/1,1/
2,5/0,-3/1,1/-1,2/3,-5 Very inefficient EP

Next:
(1, 0)/(-3, 0)/(-3, 0)/(0, -3)/(3, 0)/(5, -1)/(3, 0)/(4, 0)/(-3, -3)/(-3, 0)/(-4, 0)/(2, -2)/(2, 0)/(4, 0)

Lid · Mar 13, 2017

bubbagrub said:
(1, 0)/(-3, 0)/(-3, 0)/(0, -3)/(3, 0)/(5, -1)/(3, 0)/(4, 0)/(-3, -3)/(-3, 0)/(-4, 0)/(2, -2)/(2, 0)/(4, 0)

0,2/-2,0/0,4/-1,-2/-3,-3/ | CS
1,-3/5,2/ | CO
4,4/-3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/3,0/ | EO
-1,0/3,0/-3,-3/0,3/3,-4/3,0/-3,-3/0,3/0,-5 | PBL (J/T) ops, error fixed...

next: (4, 0) / (-3, 3) / (5, -4) / (3, 0) / (-3, -3) / (-2, 0) / (-3, 0) / (0, -2) / (-1, 0) / (-4, 0) / (1, -4) / (-2, 0) / (-1, 0)

1973486 · Mar 13, 2017

Lid said:
-3,0/0,-3/0,3/2,-1/0,-3/-2,4/-4,0 | PBL (J/R)

I get J/T after doing that (weird) EO alg.

next: (4, 0) / (-3, 3) / (5, -4) / (3, 0) / (-3, -3) / (-2, 0) / (-3, 0) / (0, -2) / (-1, 0) / (-4, 0) / (1, -4) / (-2, 0) / (-1, 0)

y2 -1,0/2,1/0,2/-2,-3/-2,-1/-3,0/
0,1/-3,-3/
y2 /3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/-3,0/
-1,-1/-3,0/3,0/-3,0/3,0/0,1/-3,3/3,-3/0,-3

G perms suck and I should learn them

(0, -4) / (4, -2) / (0, -3) / (2, -4) / (-3, -5) / (3, 0) / (1, -4) / (-2, 0) / (-4, 0) / (3, 0) / (4, 0)

Lid · Mar 13, 2017

1973486 said:
G perms suck and I should learn them

Why? This way is the best imo to do that G in D layer (J+N). Optimal is 7 twists btw.

1973486 said:
(0, -4) / (4, -2) / (0, -3) / (2, -4) / (-3, -5) / (3, 0) / (1, -4) / (-2, 0) / (-4, 0) / (3, 0) / (4, 0)

y2 2,2/0,-2/1,0/-2,3/-1,-2/-3,0 | CSP
3,-4/ | CO (CP skip)
-3,3/3,0/-3,0/1,1/3,0/-3,0/ | EO (I/L)
-1,2/-5,1/3,0/-1,-1/3,0/0,-2| EP (good U/U)

non CSP solution
y2 2,0/1,0/-2,3/-1,-2/-3,0 | CP
4,-3/6,-3/ | CO
0,-3/-3,0/-1,-1/4,1/ | EO
-1,-1/0,-3/0,3/0,-3/0,3/ | CP (J/N)
0,1/-3,-3/0,-5/0,2/0,4/0,4/4,0/2,0/-1,0/-3,-3/-3,3 | EP (Uccw/adj)

next: (-2, 0) / (3, 3) / (6, 0) / (-4, -3) / (0, -3) / (6, -1) / (-2, 0) / (4, 0) / (-3, -4) / (2, 0) / (-3, 0) / (4, 0) / (6, -4)

1973486 · Mar 13, 2017

Lid said:
Why? This way is the best imo to do that G in D layer (J+N). Optimal is 7 twists btw.

Because I don't know the alignment for double CP and still do J on top -> U perm

Lid · Mar 21, 2017

Lid said:
next: (-2, 0) / (3, 3) / (6, 0) / (-4, -3) / (0, -3) / (6, -1) / (-2, 0) / (4, 0) / (-3, -4) / (2, 0) / (-3, 0) / (4, 0) / (6, -4)

/-3,-4/0,2/0,-2/0,1/0,3/ | CS(P)
-2,3/-1,2/ | CO
-5,-2/-3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/3,0/ | EO
0,-1/3,0/-3,0/3,0/-3,0/ | CP
3,-2/5,-1/-5,1/-4,3 | EP

next: (1, 0) / (0, 6) / (-4, -1) / (-5, -2) / (-3, 0) / (-4, 0) / (0, -3) / (-2, -1) / (6, -2) / (0, -3) / (0, -2) / (-5, 0) / (1, -4)

bubbagrub · Mar 29, 2017

Lid said:
next: (1, 0) / (0, 6) / (-4, -1) / (-5, -2) / (-3, 0) / (-4, 0) / (0, -3) / (-2, -1) / (6, -2) / (0, -3) / (0, -2) / (-5, 0) / (1, -4)

0,3/-2,0/0,5/2,4/-4,0/2,4/1,2/-3,-3/ CS
0,-1/1,4/ CO
2,-1/3,0/-3,0/1,1/3,0/-3,0/ EO
2,-3/3,0/-3,-3/0,3/ CP
3,-4/0,-3/1,1/-1,2/ EP
3,1/3,3/1,0/-2,-2/2,0/2,2/-1,0/-3,-3/-2,0/3,3/3,0/-1,-1/-3,0/1,1/ Parity
0,-1/6,6/-3,-3 Finish

next: (-2, 0)/(5, 5)/(1, -2)/(-3, 0)/(-4, -1)/(6, 0)/(0, -5)/(-3, -3)/(0, -5)/(0, -2)/(6, -4)/(0, -2)

Lid · Mar 29, 2017

bubbagrub said:
next: (-2, 0)/(5, 5)/(1, -2)/(-3, 0)/(-4, -1)/(6, 0)/(0, -5)/(-3, -3)/(0, -5)/(0, -2)/(6, -4)/(0, -2)

z2 2,0/0,-2/0,2/0,-1/-3,-3/ | CSP
0,-2/2,-1/ | CO
-3,6/3,0/-3,0/1,1/3,0/-3,0/ | EO (I/L)
-1,2/-3,0/3,3/0,-3/1,1/3,0/-3,0/3,0/3,0/6,0/-4,-3 | PBL (G/A)

next: (-3, 5) / (3, 0) / (-5, -5) / (0, -3) / (0, -1) / (3, 0) / (0, -3) / (4, -4) / (-4, 0) / (4, -3) / (0, -5) / (2, -5) / (5, 0)

1973486 · Mar 29, 2017

Lid said:
next: (-3, 5) / (3, 0) / (-5, -5) / (0, -3) / (0, -1) / (3, 0) / (0, -3) / (4, -4) / (-4, 0) / (4, -3) / (0, -5) / (2, -5) / (5, 0)

/0,-3/-3,0/ CS
4,0/3,6/ CO
-3,3/3,0/3,0/-1,-1/-2,1/-3,0/ EO
z2 2,6/3,3/-1,0/2,0/-4,0/4,0/2,0/-5,0/3,3/2,4 PBL (CP parity)

(1, 0) / (-1, 2) / (1, -2) / (2, -1) / (-2, -5) / (-3, -1) / (-3, -3) / (-5, -2) / (0, -2) / (-4, -4) / (6, 0) /

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