The Gan Debate Thread

[Sion]

I don't mind Gan releasing so many products, I just wish they would make new designs that could be considered distinct cubes as opposed to different versions of the same cube. While admittedly it is quite impressive that they are able to wrap an elaborate track design around cubies and also mold it, I wish they would try new designs as well.

 

[KeationianCube]

I think the Gan copied the magnet system that’s in the XS from the YueXiao EDM. The EDM was released 4 months before the XS. I really don’t think they did, but I noticed that and decided it might be good for this thread.

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

I think the Gan copied the magnet system that’s in the XS from the YueXiao EDM.

I really don’t think they did

 

[KeationianCube]

*facepalm Lol I’m so dumb

 

[brododragon]

I think the Gan copied the magnet system that’s in the XS from the YueXiao EDM. The EDM was released 4 months before the XS. I really don’t think they did, but I noticed that and decided it might be good for this thread.

Aren't the EDM's and XS's system different? Doesn't the XS have interchangeble capsules and the EDM has adjustable magnets like the MGC?

That grammering was horrible

 

[fun at the joy]

Aren't the EDM's and XS's system different? Doesn't the XS have interchangeble capsules and the EDM has adjustable magnets like the MGC?

That grammering was horrible

the only difference is that the XS has 3 different magnet settings and the EDM has 2, the magnet systems are the same.
the X had interchangeble capsules

 

[Mischiiii]

I really like their 3x3s. I especially like the easy customizable design. I hate adjusting tensions with screws because you have to check by eye if you have the tensions equal on all sides. That’s one thing everyone should do. I don’t really care about the price. I treat my puzzles like video games. A game costs basically the same and most of the time a cube has more playtime as a game.

 

[intuition chapadoya]

i believe they should be more diverse in their manufacture and designs. i would like them to make more diverse budget cubes for different people.

 

[I'm A Cuber]

i believe they should be more diverse in their manufacture and designs. i would like them to make more diverse budget cubes for different people.

I think they are listening to people’s complaints. They are making a budget series, monster go, which has a price tag similar to other budget cubes. They have the 356 M, which is almost as good as the x/xs/xv2, and is priced near other companies’ flagships. GAN has heard you. Stop complaining. No offense, but some of you are just too thickskulled to realize it. Other companies might have changed their base piece design, while GAN hasn’t, and yet GAN cubes are still used by Max and Feliks. The Moyu/qiyi/yj/Dayan cubes may have changed their design, but it still isn’t as good as GAN’s. If you don’t like GAN slightly changing something and branding it as a new cube, then don’t buy it. Nobody is forcing you to.

Wow that was long. And I only have one GAN cube lol.

Edit: reading that back, I realize I might have seemed mean to intuition chapadoya. Sorry if you felt that way, I didn’t mean to be mean (Homonyms lol)

 

[Sub1Hour]

They have the 356 M, which is almost as good as the x/xs/xv2,

I think that the 356 M IS the gan x.

GAN cubes are still used by Max and Feliks. The Moyu/qiyi/yj/Dayan cubes may have changed their design, but it still isn’t as good as GAN’s.

Just because Max uses a cube does not mean its the best. Its the best for him but it's sure not the best for everyone else. See post I made here

I'm not sure if anyone else sees this at competitions but in my area, I notice that on average the faster a person is the less likely they are to use a gan cube. When I staff I see all of these people that avg 1:15-45 on 3x3 and most of them use the X or XS. Once you get into the final round the most common cube is the WRm followed by Valk variants, GTS3s, and then MF3RS3s and Tengyuns. At the final round of 3x3 that happened in my area, there was only 1 person using a gan cube.

If you don’t like GAN slightly changing something and branding it as a new cube, then don’t buy it. Nobody is forcing you to.

I agree with you on this point. I don't like gan cubes, so I don't buy em. I feel like this thread seems a little more hostile than it should. I think that gan lovers and gan haters should read this before going off the rails because someone did not want to pay 60 dollars for a slightly tweaked cube, or if someone did pay 60 dollars for a slightly tweaked cube.

 

[I'm A Cuber]

Can you put different colored ges nuts into a Gan rs?

 

[Sub1Hour]

Can you put different colored ges nuts into a Gan rs?

The GES on the rs look like they can be swapped with the ones that come with the M but im not sure for certain, but why would you want weaker springs in a cube that already feels like jello?

 

[I'm A Cuber]

The GES on the rs look like they can be swapped with the ones that come with the M but im not sure for certain, but why would you want weaker springs in a cube that already feels like jello?

I magnetized it, but the magnets are too strong for how slow the cube is

 

[Sub1Hour]

I magnetized it, but the magnets are too strong for how slow the cube is

Well then try using the nuts from the M, I don't know if it will work but the core looks identical

 

[CodingCuber]

hi. I think GAN does make the best 3x3s but other than that they are pretty rubbish

 

[ProStar]

In TheCubicle's newsletter, they say that the new Gan Explorer is a rerelease of the 354 V2 except it includes extra GES nuts. Instead of just letting people buy a set of GES nuts, Gan has to sell the same cube with it and tell everyone it's new...

 

[HaHaHaHeeHeeHee]

eww i dont like gan

 

[Chinmay47]

Actually the problem with GAN is that it doesn't like to step in the global market of Puzzles except the NxN puzzles. Look at its history. It has a lot of puzzles and their updated versions. The 460 M 4x4 is available in both stickerless and stickered. It then came out with two versions of the 249 M, both having stickered and stickerless types of their own. The 356 line has so many more versions including the X, XS, R, SM, Air SM, i, XM, Air UM, RS and the 330. Recently it also came out with the MonsterGo collection for beginners including the MonsterGo Cloud Blue and Pink. And finally the latest GAN Megaminx, unfortunately, only in stickerless. These variants, considering both their stickered and stickerless types, amounts for some 30 types of cubes!
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Now this is the problem with it. It is continuously improving the mechanisms and types of the 3x3 only. Sometimes it changes the magnet replacement system, and sometimes, it switches to a full plastic core to make the cube light. It isn't ready to come out with other WCA events. I mean, just think about it. A GAN Pyraminx? With some 60 or something magnets? A GAN Skewb? With 60 magnets? A GAN Square-1, with 64 magnets? These will hit out the market just as they'll come. GAN is known for its premium products and this one will really help raising its popularity among other speedcube manufacturers
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I personally feel the need to have more types of puzzles for their respective events, rather than having the same event with many types of puzzles. Why didn't I replace my Rubik's brand 3x3 with some flagship speedcube 6 months ago? (It performs really good though now!) The reason simply being that I wanted more events rather than some new 3x3s. Instead of getting the new MGC Elite right away, I first went on for a new Megaminx, Pyraminx, Skewb and a 2x2.
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Now I have 5 different puzzles instead of having the same old 3x3. This really helps a lot to keep a balance between all the WCA events and keeps you ready for all WCA events whenever they come.
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So personally I feel that GAN needs to produce "new types of products" rather than "new products". It would be really great if it can make all WCA puzzles at the earliest. Being a Sub-5 Pyraminxer, I really look forward to a GAN Pyraminx. With 36 magnets or so, factory default blue GES nuts, lubed with the Angstrom Gravitas Angstrom Dignitas and the DNM 37 or Lubicle Black or SCS Cosmic Nebula, and stickered with the best quality stickers or maybe stickerless. I've used only one GAN product till now which is the 356 X and I actually love the feel of GAN Cubes! I mean, its not super impressive, as I have some preference for the MGC line and the Kylin Black line of cubes, but the texture, the turning and the smoothness makes it feel like a premium product actually!
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Not a big fan of GAN cubes, but will surely join the GAN fray if it comes out with puzzles other than the NxNs and the Megaminx!

 

[alexiscubing]

Ok, I love some gan cubes, but I hate others
The Gan354m is my current main, and one of my favourite cubes. I personally think that the XS feels cheap and isnt as good as the X, and the 4x4 is pretty garbage. The Mega is amazing though. Overall the price isnt worth the puzzles, although they have some 'great' cubes

 

[I'm A Cuber]

In TheCubicle's newsletter, they say that the new Gan Explorer is a rerelease of the 354 V2 except it includes extra GES nuts. Instead of just letting people buy a set of GES nuts, Gan has to sell the same cube with it and tell everyone it's new...

Except for the fact that this exists:

GAN Digital GES Set

This is a set of the Numerical GES from GAN. This is the set that comes with the 356 M, but they are compatible with other puzzles from GAN as well. Compatible with: GAN 356 M GAN 356 M Lite GAN 356 X V2 GAN 356 XS GAN 354 V2

www.thecubicle.com

Also, where can I find this newsletter?