#### ProStar

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Love em or hate em, we all have an opinion on them. What do you think of Gan and their puzzles? Do they need to start making something unique and not just a bunch of extremely similar 3x3s, or is Mr. Gan today's Thomas Edison?

#### Cody_Caston

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I personally dislike their cubes, if i had to tell them something to make their cubes better, I’d say make them slower,
But that’s just my opinion and i know people are fine with their cubes that fast.

#### Hazel

Have they innovated a bunch and done a lot for the cubing community? Absolutely.

Are their cubes excessively priced? Also absolutely.

Do they make good cubes? Very much so.

Are their expensive cubes for everybody? No way.

#### Sion

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Have they innovated a bunch and done a lot for the cubing community? Absolutely.

Are their cubes excessively priced? Also absolutely.

Do they make good cubes? Very much so.

Are their expensive cubes for everybody? No way.

The only things they can really call their own are their magnet rods and numerical. The XS seems very much ripped off from MoYu, and all of their recent puzzles seem like copies of each-other.

#### Cody_Caston

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The only things they can really call their own are their magnet rods and numerical. The XS seems very much ripped off from MoYu, and all of their recent puzzles seem like copies of each-other.
like they’re not innovating any more?

#### Nmile7300

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They are innovative in terms of customization, but let's be honest the piece design hasn't changed since the 356.

#### Cody_Caston

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They are innovative in terms of customization, but let's be honest the piece design hasn't changed since the 356.
356 sm

#### Sion

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The only altered things were some honeycombs instead of regular tracks, an extra torpedo, slightly different edge shape, and weight.

There are many more differences between the gts1 and gts2.

#### Pyr

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They really innovated on the price of flagships, I'll give them that

I also really like how gross their business model is, it's really fascinating to watch from a distance

Also the X is ok

Love em or hate em, we all have an opinion on them. What do you think of Gan and their puzzles? Do they need to start making something unique and not just a bunch of extremely similar 3x3s, or is Mr. Gan today's Thomas Edison?
oh boy here we go

#### Sub1Hour

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I still can't get over the fact that they only produce good hardware in 2 events (debatably 3 but the 251 is not as good as the valk or mgc imo) and when they do branch out it's most likely a failure like with the original gan 249 and 460.

#### Alex Moscibroda

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Yes, they had 5 years and all they changed in the pieces was the honeycomb pattern (As if v2 was better than v1...)

They have made hundreds of thousands of dollars from pretty much the same cube

#### Sub1Hour

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They have made hundreds of thousands of dollars from pretty much the same cube
I agree with that, especially when they are charging upwards of 50 dollars for a cube where the only difference from the last version is a slight tweak to customization and an older core that they have already used.

#### brododragon

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They've just become a successful company with a premium reputation, so, why waste money on research and development when you can just make minor adjustments and have people buy your products just the same?

#### Cody_Caston

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I agree with that, especially when they are charging upwards of 50 dollars for a cube where the only difference from the last version is a slight tweak to customization and an older core that they have already used.
Yeah but think about having to buy the plastic, having to buy all the bolts and nuts (no dirty jokes pls) and all the magnets.
They need to get their money back somehow, remember it’s business.

#### brododragon

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Yeah but think about having to buy the plastic, having to buy all the bolts and nuts (no dirty jokes pls) and all the magnets.
They need to get their money back somehow, remember it’s business.
It's not like other companies are doing the same for 20-30$, right? #### Pyr ##### Member They have made hundreds of thousands of dollars from pretty much the same cube Yea, GAN is in the business of making money, rather than innovative cubes Their products from the ground up reek of pure advertising and trying to sell you on this sleek and innovative aesthetic they manufacture. I'd argue the honeycomb pattern is pretty symbolic of this, as it's actual practicality is questionable, but it looks beautiful on their site ??? Which events? 3x3 and Megaminx #### Sub1Hour ##### Member Yeah but think about having to buy the plastic, having to buy all the bolts and nuts (no dirty jokes pls) and all the magnets. They need to get their money back somehow, remember it’s business. But at the same time YJ is pumping out a magnetic cube for 8 dollars, at the same time qiyi is making a magnetic cube for 10 dollars, and moyu is making a magnetic cube for 15. ??? Which events? mega and 3x3 #### Cody_Caston ##### Member It's not like other companies are doing the same for 20-30$, right?
Not really in aus